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« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2005, 02:11:34 pm »
Come on spell his name right Gholmyrr, and at the moment he has 686 but will soon change as i have given up advising when he is on as he grabs the most, and i am not alone in giving up when he is on.
 
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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2005, 02:17:01 pm »
well... he got over 1500 as golmir... also the other one is hard to spell.
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« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2005, 02:49:49 pm »
only because you asked me to, point being he not very discreet:), there was also no need to clam few seconds more and he could have typed his reply. now do you get the point.
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« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2005, 03:00:29 pm »
janner, remove that picture.

theres nothing \'bad\' going on. you are just getting silly now, because you choose not to use the claim feature doesnt mean that no one else has the right to use it.
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« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2005, 11:49:05 am »
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janner, remove that picture.

theres nothing \'bad\' going on. you are just getting silly now, because you choose not to use the claim feature doesnt mean that no one else has the right to use it.

 I was not implying there was, just using it as an example.
 1. It is well known that if you updated with the updater a mirror is bad and you need to re update as a [GM] he should know this.
 2. He LIED. AS THE SCREEN SHOT PROVED THERE WAS NO gm ON LINE.
 3. The time it took him to claim he could have typed his reply.
 4. Why did he reply at all if all he had to do was bring his GM on and save player?
 5. As i understand it once you have got your GM position you just monitor Advice and reply if no-one else does.
 6. So I wonder what are his motives in advising at all, as he has what he wants, and further advising as Gholmyrr is depriving some other players from helping others. I strongly suggest he get off his fat ass and find out all the new stuff in game and get up to date instead of relying on others who have bothered to find and enjoy the new in game improvements.

 O and Drey i was not and never have said no one is to use the option to claim, just don\'t use it to up your A.P. BY BEATING EVERY ONE ELSE TO IT.   :P

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« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2005, 04:13:06 pm »
an example of what?

1. how do you know for sure
2. i thought he said a gm was on its way...?
3. and?
4. well... no one else seemed to have answerd the request, by reply he is letting the player know that help is on the way.
5. theres no rule that says that, if you ask me we should advise, and be the ones best geared up for the job. also in point three you say about \"the time it took\", if it has taken some time for him to do that it suggests that no one else was doing anything about it.
6. now 6... 6 was just plane rude, and honestly from someone your age. people may see me as being immature but when do i post things like that. as i understand he has been away recently do to things going on in real life (same as me). though im sure in the end the player got the help he needed

this whole \'dicussion\'is kinda silly, as long as the player gets the help they need then its all fine.


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« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2005, 04:42:42 pm »
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an example of what?

1. how do you know for sure
2. i thought he said a gm was on its way...?
3. and?
4. well... no one else seemed to have answerd the request, by reply he is letting the player know that help is on the way.
5. theres no rule that says that, if you ask me we should advise, and be the ones best geared up for the job. also in point three you say about \"the time it took\", if it has taken some time for him to do that it suggests that no one else was doing anything about it.
6. now 6... 6 was just plane rude, and honestly from someone your age. people may see me as being immature but when do i post things like that. as i understand he has been away recently do to things going on in real life (same as me). though im sure in the end the player got the help he needed

this whole \'dicussion\'is kinda silly, as long as the player gets the help they need then its all fine.

  1.You wont me to post it again i will if required and log times too if required.
  2.As the screenshot shows there was no GM online.
  3.So why claim?
  4.No one else got the chance.
  5.You are a GM so you no better than me, so i cant argue just point out that is what i have seen other GM do.
  6.Yes it was intended to be, As my hours on line show i was around a lot not just clocking hours but doing things and was there when he popped in, and it was me that talked to him when no one else bothered.
 Big deal i am 49 you are i believe 17, so what i have feelings too age does not matter it is how you fell does.

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« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2005, 04:55:49 pm »
1. well... to be honest i could think of nothing to say for point one :P

2. on its way doesnt mean a GM has to be online, though one did happen to pass by. maybe you would rather he said \'wait a minute a GM will be with you soon\' its all the same. he can make a GM appear at will so he would know if one is on its way or not.

yes, 17, im not saying age matters... just that it doesnt harm to act it once in a while. even i know that.
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« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2005, 06:38:42 pm »
GMs perform two primary functions in the game.

1. They help players overcome problems, that are difficult or impossible, for them to solve themselves:  they teach, entertain, and generally make themselves useful.

2. They keep players from interfering with the play of others.

They have a third function, that is nearly trivial.

They enforce the rules of style.

They make sure no one is named for a famous person, corporation, software product or a sex act.


Janner dear,

You are quite right, that anyone who habitually claims more than one question at a time, is probably doing so, solely to gain adviser points as quickly as possible.

You are quite right to point out, that someone who will do that, cares about the advisor points an awful lot more than they do about the players that need help.

And you are quite right to be extremely concerned about the motives of such a person, and worry whether they might damage the game, should they become a GM.



If GMs are Teachers, PS will become a place of discovery and wonder, and players will compete for the honor of talking to a GM.

If GMs are Policemen, then PS will become a prison camp, and players will do their best to avoid gaining a GMs attention.

No one who is more interested in the second and third functions, than the first, should be allowed to be a GM.



Verrliit

ps.  There is a way for Janner to overcome his text-speech impediment.  All he needs is three times the shortcut buttons that he has now, and a little help editing them, which I and a hundred others would be glad to volunteer...

He has a heart as big as the world, a ton of time, and he wants to help.

(Adn fi yuo dndi\'t udnerstnad, taht I hvae olny repaeted waht Jnnaer siad, tehn eh si nto jsut hrad fo speaknig, yuo rae hrad fo listnenig.)
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« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2005, 09:02:55 pm »
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They have a third function, that is nearly trivial.

They enforce the rules of style.

They make sure no one is named for a famous person, corporation, software product or a sex act.


Nearly trivial? Verrliit, this is one of the most important duties of a GM :)
Judge: Are you trying to show contempt for this court, Mr Smith?
Smith: No, My Lord. I am attempting to conceal it.

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« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2005, 07:44:19 am »
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They have a third function, that is nearly trivial.

They enforce the rules of style.

They make sure no one is named for a famous person, corporation, software product or a sex act.


Nearly trivial? Verrliit, this is one of the most important duties of a GM :)

Fail to do number one, or number two, and play will be significantly damaged, very quickly.

I have seen a number of names, along the lines of \"Coitusin Terruptus\" and \"Threed Smax\" play for weeks or months without causing any problems.

Yes, names like these should probably be changed, but the effect on play, and on the other players is trivial.

On the other hand, for the player who has their name changed by force...

If they had played the name, and begun to live it as an identity, then to have it changed by force, against their will, is emotionally similar to being raped.

I have seen players in shock over it for weeks.

Do not make PS the place where the Style Police live.



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« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2005, 07:53:15 am »
unnecessary rules?

so we should let a shortened version of \'richard head\' run around the world full knowing what his name makes people think?

all the rules put up in the naming policy are to stay, wether you like it or not is your opinion, and frankly if you don\'t like it, you can always leave, its not like this fully-free-pre-alpha-tech-demo-made-in-spare-time-by-fulltime-working-people-as-a-hobby is keeping you here

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Thank them often?
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2005, 08:03:03 am »
Karyuu is one of the few people that have welcomed me to this game.  Others either don\'t care or have openly attacked me for having ideas different from theirs.  You say to thank these people often, yet you accuse them of being on the verge of style police.  Style police are needed.  

I find names to be informative and entertaining.  I see Raistlin Hythan or Joseph Majere and ask,\"Dragonlance fan much?\"  I see the other hidden off-color names to be funny as well.  The point is not everyone shares this view.  This offends some people and others are being \"raped\" from the copyright infringement.  

Karyuu didn\'t say the other rules were unimportant.  What he said was that rule three was \"one of the most important\" meaning it is counted among the important rules.
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« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2005, 08:15:22 am »
As we seam now to be talking name rules haw about your name Keyaz.
 going by naming rules what say you to this. Follow this link.

http://www.redcafe.net/member.php?find=lastposter&t=83971

 World Famous English football team. Wizard Keyaz
Reserve Team Player.

 To me being English auto think you must be famous to be linked to such a famous football team. So must be against rules?

 But i will be first to admit some names need changing and must be.

 But what if a name in say italian is rude, even slang meaning, should it be banned, even though to the rest of world just see a name?

 Love to find more examples but must get kids ready for school.          :))

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« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2005, 08:21:39 am »
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If they had played the name, and begun to live it as an identity, then to have it changed by force, against their will, is emotionally similar to being raped.


Comparing name-changing in a game to rape? Unbelievable. The naming rules pop up whenever a player goes through character creation. If he or she fails to comply, he or she has to deal with the consequences. And frankly if something as simple as this is such a shock, I would recommend seeking professional help, and I am absolutely serious.

Janner: Keyaz is Zayek inverted. You are doing more analyzing than necessary, and more-over (this has been stated before) GMs are OOC unless specifically involved in an RP event, in which case they often change names. GMs are the policemen in the game.

Kythag: She, not he ;) *shakes paws*
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Smith: No, My Lord. I am attempting to conceal it.