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[c-2501]

Originally posted by Verrliit
I have seen a number of names, along the lines of \"Coitusin Terruptus\" and \"Threed Smax\" play for weeks or months without causing any problems.

if you see this kind of thing all the time why dont you petition the GM\'s to have the persons name changed?

Originally posted by Verrliit
On the other hand, for the player who has their name changed by force...

If they had played the name, and begun to live it as an identity, then to have it changed by force, against their will, is
emotionally similar to being raped.

OMFG  do you have even the slightest comprehension of what you just said?

i would love to tell you just what i think of this comment but i can guarentee the post would be deleted within minutes
THIS IS A GAME how you can possibly make that comarison is compleatly and utterly rediculous.  

[Bereror]

Originally posted by Verrliit
If they had played the name, and begun to live it as an identity, then to have it changed by force, against their will, is emotionally similar to being raped.

Verrliit, you are going too far with this. Tell to somebody who has been raped, that don\'t worry, it is nothing more than your name changed in a computer game. Stop doing it if you want some respect from other people.

[r.guppy]

By Karyuu

Janner: Keyaz is Zayek inverted. You are doing more analyzing than necessary, and more-over (this has been stated before) GMs are OOC unless specifically involved in an RP event, in which case they often change names. GMs are the policemen in the game.

Kythag: She, not he *shakes paws*

 First of sorry she But my point being is two fold.
 1. Do you read small print on every thing i don\'t , most don\'t. I see Keyaz, and a simple search found that.
 2. New player starts creation, box pops up were do i get rid of that want to play game, read that later, in game 5 to 10 mins no clue what\'s going on, then the please for help start, i am new what do i do?

 I picked the name at random just for a example, i understand as a GM the rules are different.

 P.S. just done same with your name using Google. OPPS just done mine Janner    I will shut up.

 )

[Bereror]

This thread is going offtopic and this might be my first message that gets deleted

Originally posted by r.guppy
 P.S. just done same with your name using Google. OPPS just done mine Janner    I will shut up.

Janner, you saved my day  
The Janner Textbook

Please, do not take it personally  

[Keyaz]

nice fact, world famous football team? wizard Keyaz? not famous if i havent heard of it, and I haven\'t

like Karyuu said, it\'s just Zayek backwards, the chance that its some poor sods real name must be about a billion to one.

if you want to be super analysish, google Demarthl

chock horror... no wait... every result is linked to me :|

the rules don\'t differ for GM\'s

if someone finds my IC \'Keyaz\' so offensive I\'ll just change it

I\'m not bothered about name changes!

so why the hell should anyone else be.

someone should only take offense when their name is changed if they have used it for along time in many places, it abides by the rules clearly and they have their character history if their name is like that and it\'s changed, they have the right to complain.

if they don\'t, shut up, frankly

[Drey]

Originally posted by Kythag
Karyuu is one of the few people that have welcomed me to this game.  Others either don\'t care or have openly attacked me for having ideas different from theirs.  You say to thank these people often, yet you accuse them of being on the verge of style police.  Style police are needed.  

/me for style police person of th year, and also if you would have made a hello im new thread you prolly would have got a welcoming from me, http://qdb.ps-mc.com/?388

[r.guppy]

Now  you see why i shut up.   )
 

Janner, you saved my day  
The Janner Textbook

Please, do not take it personally  

 none taken. OR  arrr thatbe ofay    )

[Verrliit]

Originally posted by c-2501

Originally posted by Verrliit
I have seen a number of names, along the lines of \"Coitusin Terruptus\" and \"Threed Smax\" play for weeks or months without causing any problems.

if you see this kind of thing all the time why dont you petition the GM\'s to have the persons name changed?

When I see a marginal name, played by a well-behaved player, I say nothing.  They did nothing to interfere with the play of others, and they could easily be a highly respected Oldbie from MB or before, like Harvey Wallbanger is.

Originally posted by c-2501

Originally posted by Verrliit
On the other hand, for the player who has their name changed by force...

If they had played the name, and begun to live it as an identity, then to have it changed by force, against their will, is
emotionally similar to being raped.

OMFG  do you have even the slightest comprehension of what you just said?

i would love to tell you just what i think of this comment but i can guarentee the post would be deleted within minutes
THIS IS A GAME how you can possibly make that comarison is compleatly and utterly rediculous.  

I just love when this happens.  The same people who tell others how to play, and yell loudest about RP, do not understand that if you really RP, it is no longer just a game.  

Yes, the character\'s life is fiction.  But if you RP, the emotions are as real as RL, by definition.  You do not just play-act,  cowboys and indians, or Barbie-doll style.  You live the story that you create, while you are within the world of Yliakum.  

Your name is who you are, the title of the story that you live.  All who know you, and are part of your story, attach to you, and identify you and your story, by your name alone.  

I have played about 2000 hours as Verrliit.  To change my name now, would end my story.  Even though I have touched hundreds of other names, I would suddenly be a complete stranger again.  To force me to change my name at this point, would be more than rape.  It would be murder.

Originally posted by Keyaz
I\'m not bothered about name changes!

so why the hell should anyone else be.

Well, Keyaz/Zayek/Demarthl/ etc, etc, etc, etc...  Perhaps because they have created a story they care about continuing...

Keyaz\'s signature
\"If you be yourself, people will like you more!\"
\"I know I know, but, when I do... why do I always feel hurt?\"
~Even though I feel like I\'m dying inside, I know that I have the best friend anyone could ever have

And perhaps the multiple-personality-name-change thing may not be working out for you as well as you think.



Verrliit.

[Suno_Regin]

/me strains his eyes to read Verrliit\'s text.

Dark font and the Planeshift forum skin don\'t mix. >_>

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by Verrliit
When I see a marginal name, played by a well-behaved player, I say nothing.  They did nothing to interfere with the play of others, and they could easily be a highly respected Oldbie from MB or before, like Harvey Wallbanger is.

And I\'m very adamant about making absolutely no distinction between AB/MB oldbies and CB newbies :) The naming rules make absolutely no distinction as well. To be the respected and contributing member of the community that you yearn for so much, your duties include reporting those that disobey our rather necessary rules. Not let them fly by. But even if you choose not do, that\'s fine. But defending those who choose a name that falls outside of the naming rules on the grounds of \"it\'s rape,\" is appealing to emotion more than making logical arguments - a method you seem to enjoy using in every one of your posts, Verrliit. I understand that there is a lot of emotion involved in roleplay, and yet however:

I just love when this happens.  The same people who tell others how to play, and yell loudest about RP, do not understand that if you really RP, it is no longer just a game.

This is a mistake I have seen many people make, and have made numerous times myself. Thankfully I am now past the stage where my character and I get into the same emotional woes and drama, because we are separate beings. Roleplaying yourself, or getting so emotionally caught up in the game, is a very, very unhealthy thing to do, Verrliit.

Yes, the character\'s life is fiction.  But if you RP, the emotions are as real as RL, by definition.  You do not just play-act,  cowboys and indians, or Barbie-doll style.  You live the story that you create, while you are within the world of Yliakum.

I cannot help but feel, again, that this is a giant mistake. We are actors in a play - but the play is not real. The stage is not real, the props aren\'t real, and our words, the words we utter through the mouths of our avatars, are not real. It is very important indeed to feel as if you are deep in the land if Yliakum, but no one must ever lose themselves in it to the extent that a game becomes your life. That is an illness.

I have played about 2000 hours as Verrliit.  To change my name now, would end my story.  Even though I have touched hundreds of other names, I would suddenly be a complete stranger again.  To force me to change my name at this point, would be more than rape.  It would be murder.

Thankfully, no one named inappropriately would ever be allowed to play 2000 hours. You can scream rape and bloody murder all you want, as inappropriate as that is, but the naming rules stay.

[Drey]

on the subject of naming rules i dont agree with the idea of names being permitted if you provide a rp history.

also i think there is wet ocming out of my keyboard

[r.guppy]

On names it took 4 months i think for someone to make a connection to one of my guild to a book/movie.
 So his last name was changed, I have been hear nearly a year and only just found out there is a lord Janner, So must my name be changed and my guilds name.?
  Back to thread subject
 Why not drop claiming as it is not really needed in my view, if you genuinely wont to help type away and if you get piped to it good for them.

[Drey]

Originally posted by r.guppy
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... need anymore be said?

[Verrliit]

Originally posted by Karyuu
To be the respected and contributing member of the community that you yearn for so much, your duties include reporting those that disobey our rather necessary rules.

I already have the respect of those I respect.

I create art, I teach, I inspire, I encourage and help, and I provoke thought.


Sure, if I see someone who is named George Bush, something crude and sexual, or disruptive to play, I will act to remove the problem.

But I have seen the GMs that think as you do, obsessively change names like Carpe Noctem, that do not offend, are not famous, and do not interfere with play in any way.

That unnecessary cure is worse than the disease.


To change a name, very seriously interferes with play.

You tell me that I have a duty to help you do that to players who have caused no trouble whatever.

I think not.


I would have to be a GM or a forum moderator, to have duties.

I do not want to be either one.

I came here to create and to play, not to control people.

Originally posted by Karyuu

I just love when this happens.  The same people who tell others how to play, and yell loudest about RP, do not understand that if you really RP, it is no longer just a game.

This is a mistake I have seen many people make, and have made numerous times myself. Thankfully I am now past the stage where my character and I get into the same emotional woes and drama, because we are separate beings.

So your solution to the intensity of your feelings was to detatch from them?  

You do know, don\'t you, that if you and your character are separate beings, then you are schizophrenic?  I think you probably mean losing control, or losing track of what parts are real and what are fiction, instead.

Originally posted by Karyuu
Roleplaying yourself, or getting so emotionally caught up in the game, is a very, very unhealthy thing to do, Verrliit.

Nothing unhealthy about it, at all.  Though your character is fiction, your interaction with other players is very real indeed.  There is nothing wrong with feeling, no matter how intense it gets.  

Yes, the character\'s life is fiction.  But if you RP, the emotions are as real as RL, by definition.  You do not just play-act,  cowboys and indians, or Barbie-doll style.  You live the story that you create, while you are within the world of Yliakum.

It is losing the boundary between reality and fiction, that is unhealthy.  It is not unhealthy to be passionate, or to have emotions.  Just the opposite.  It is unhealthy to suppress them.


I had the incredible good fortune to have fallen in love, as Verrliit, and had an affair that lasted for months.  The love was real, and reciprocated, and there was not, and never will be, anything wrong with feeling love, or sorrow or joy or anything else.

I appreciate your concern for my safety, Karyuu.  I do play to the extremes of what I am able to do.

But I am not confused.  I know the difference between my fantasy and the real world.  I have been doing Role-play for more than thirty years.


Verrliit

[Eolius]

Since it seems this thread covers 2 threads actualy i\'ll try to state my opinion on both.

1. About the claiming of advice sessions...
Here\'s the deal: The help channel was, and i think still is, ment for helping others. There are 2 things though that have turned advising into a competition though, the posibillity of becoming a GM based on adv points and the top 5 advisors list. A simple solution for turning the help channel into a helpfull channel would be to take out the top 5 advisors list from the laanx server and since it has already been stated in another thread that the adv points are not so important and definately not a key in becoming GM the problem is solved.

2. Naming policy

I think that comon sense should be aplied regarding the naming policy. I\'ve seen names that are not actualy fit for names but having a name like \"Bob\" i don\'t think damages RP or anything. I\'ve said it alot of times and i\'ll keep saying that the biggest mistake people do when trying to set some rules for PS is that they compare Yliakum with the real world. I mean i know some people names Bob or John or whatever and i know those are names fit for a let\'s say \"teran\" but Eolius doesn\'t know about Earth so a name like Bob should sound preety much Yliakean for him. I\'m not saying that names like \"Sexinthe Oven\" should be alowed because the aforementioned means perhaps something in Yliakean too and it is rude and offensive but let\'s not change names everytime somebody reads a book and finds out that the name of the main hero in that book was \"Janner\" (this is just an example). And besides that i rewally dout that any of your characters has heared about the english footbal team and about Keyaz being a footbal player. Or if so i wonder why didn\'t i saw a footbal field in the arena ^_^.