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« Reply #150 on: April 03, 2006, 07:08:37 pm »
I dont need to, i already have 2 people working for me on the inside..

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« Reply #151 on: April 03, 2006, 07:36:38 pm »
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Well if SCoY EVER interferes in ANY of my or my guilds affairs without an invite, i will make it my mission to destroy you all!!!
Just thought I would let you know!



You would also be attacking people you used to consider family at one point.  What was the point of that threat anyway? They can\'t really interfere with your guild unless you ask or allow them to and SCoY is out to do good, not bad.*Zorbels shakes her head sadly and walks away*

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« Reply #152 on: April 03, 2006, 07:54:32 pm »
I can\'t believe it, but I agree with Zanzibar on this.  It should be roleplayed to the fullest and not discussed here.

Easton and Janner:  you two are/were friends.  You should not let a roleplay interfere with that friendship.  I realize that Easton has put a lot of thought into this and only has good intentions and is now intimately \"involved\" with those ideas/ideals. But Easton must remember, this is a roleplay too and that everyone isn\'t just going to say, \"that Easton, he\'s a real good bloke, where do I signup?\".  Even if they personally \"know\" you.  We\'re \"acting\" and you must convince them by acting.

Janner, you should realize his attachment and give him a little space to breathe.  You (Easton) need to be less critical of Janner for his oppinions as you asked for them.  And Janner, please have the \"character Janner\" bring these issues forward in game.  Easton has given you an invitation to attend one.  Take him up on it.  Raise the fuss there.  I do agree that from the outside, the SCoY could appear to have some sinister/secretive/elitist look and feel.  So roleplay it and don\'t personally attack your friend OOC.

You two have a lot of passion for your ideas and that is commendable.  It\'s good to have vision and the guts to attempt to put those ideas into action.  But you don\'t have to make this into a real life argument, because it isn\'t.  I\'m a little disappointed to have seen Easton finally \"loose it\" with Janner.  I\'m sure Easton was/is very hurt and feels personally betrayed by his friend.  But, when you get to that point...  take a step back and remember, we\'re playing a game.

Even if it turns out to be a huge mistake and failure, it will have been a fun (remember that word?) experience.  So let the opposing guilds show up and demand answers...  That would be awesome!  Vision people, vision!

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On the other side I would like to thank Easton for putting the SCoY together.  I think we (the characters of PS) need a council like this.  I would also like to thank both Janner and Anfa for bringing to light why guilds with a similar \"mission statement\" as the SCoY may oppose the SCoY.  I hadn\'t seen their side before and I didn\'t consider their input before I became an ambassador.  Not that it would have changed my mind, but I like to have as much information as possible before making a commitment to something.

I look forward to seeing the outcome of this idea.  I do hope the disagreements can be resolved and the SCoY fulfill it\'s mission.  But however it goes down, let it do so IN GAME!

Araye

EDIT: at Zorbels, this post is OOC and the point of it is that it must be \"rp\'d in game\"
« Last Edit: April 03, 2006, 08:02:37 pm by Araye »

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« Reply #153 on: April 03, 2006, 07:58:36 pm »
*Sighs* Araye it is being roleplayed out in game. This thread is for the ooc dicussions.

[Edit] @ Araye Iam not one to dispute this being roleplayed in game because I am one of the ones who posted that it should. Many times it has been mentioned in this thread by Zanzibar, myself and others. Easton has asked for this to be an ooc thread, and so it shall be. This issue with SCoY is being roleplayed out in game. You just have to be at the right place at the right time.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2006, 09:52:10 pm by zorbels »
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« Reply #154 on: April 03, 2006, 08:25:15 pm »
*makes some popcorn*

*eats it*


Don\'t stop now....
« Last Edit: April 03, 2006, 08:25:31 pm by zanzibar »
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« Reply #155 on: April 03, 2006, 08:41:04 pm »
/me joins Zanzibar (unbelievable...) and starts eating popcorn.
I\'m really sorry to say but this thread has gone beyond the limits of immaturity and it is degrading into stupidity. With all the threats, the \"!!!\", the \"#@$%\" and everything it is starting to prove that whatever your good intentions are, there will be always someone \"smart\" enough to accuse you of something. Also, I think this thread should be closed because it is going nowhere. Well... sort of nowhere... At least we find something interesting about some people. Wish I could say the news were pleasantly surprising...
« Last Edit: April 03, 2006, 08:45:32 pm by Eolius »

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« Reply #156 on: April 03, 2006, 08:47:04 pm »
Get your own damned popcorn!
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« Reply #157 on: April 03, 2006, 08:53:41 pm »
It was my popcorn! I just joined you in eating popcorn! :p
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« Reply #158 on: April 03, 2006, 08:55:08 pm »
Fine then!  Just stay away from mine, I made it!
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« Reply #159 on: April 03, 2006, 09:10:54 pm »
/me ignores the last couple posts and hopes they are deleted.

@Araye: I agree, the child-like arguments and accusations have been bothersome. I found myself losing my cool. I don\'t expect anyone to understand because Janner and i have gone back a while, and the way i reacted after that long of a time was due to my personal reasons. Janner can complain all he wants. he just needs to know that everything he says in game (if not in brackets) is RP and everything in this thread is OOC. i have this odd feeling that he might be confused about that, or maybe he forgot that. but Janner\'s ooc complaints in this thread and RP complaints are identical. and he won\'t even use the elements of his complaints in an rp format. for example.. he cited the scoy website several times in a discussion in the plaza. this is where i get bothered and i feel i am being attacked personally, not RP-wise. That is the difference between the arguments and discussions between Easton and others and Easton and Janner. So, as soon as he clears that all up and supplies the council with a revised list of complaints, criticizims, ideas, and thoughts, i find this all a large waste of time.

We made this thread for a reason. We want to hear what everyone has to say. We want to see people\'s interest, or their thoughts on improvement. Maybe people have objective questions (like anfa was doing). This is the purpose of this thread. We wish to better the council so we can maximize the efficiency of the council while keeping the most amount of people the most happy we can possibly make it. All RP aside.. say what you want..

(I also would like to mention once again that Milana has been given the role of Spokesperson. In the future, she will be posting the SCoY\'s official solutions and thoughts about the issues presented to us.)

Stay Safe,
Easton Ghent
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« Reply #160 on: April 03, 2006, 09:22:26 pm »
Help!  Help!  I\'m being oppressed!
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« Reply #161 on: April 03, 2006, 09:28:03 pm »
Well to give up so easy i must admit i did not think you would ever give up.

 Back to point of my random post and sometimes incompressible ramblings., You have chosen to be a diplomat and in that you are being judged, no matter how personal and aggressive I or anyone TALKs to you KEEP  your cool. Never lose it or resort to name calling or accusations, YOU are the one who has to keep order.

 Also IT is wise to hear and understand no matter how hard it is to under stand. In all my ramblings the main sticking point was there and you ignored them, Your wording in you history etc was misleading and was being misunderstood, NOT once have you said you would look at that and were posable  change the wording.

 At the end of the Day words are all you have as a diplomat.

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« Reply #162 on: April 03, 2006, 10:04:26 pm »
I think maybe from this point on there should only be posts about

(a) The issue with SKoY (if you have one)
(b) You thoughts on a solution
(c) to state a comment or criticism. (Basically your feedback)

of course it will be ooc as easton has requested.

We know your issues Janner, and Easton we have watched you reply and answer Janners questions. There is no positive, or solutions coming from your argument and if anything it is causing other people to fight as well as side. It is also causing a bad out look on SCoY, or giving the impression that this not worth the time and head ache. That is a shame. I think SCoY deserves a chance. It is time to take it into PM\'s.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2006, 06:47:22 am by zorbels »
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« Reply #163 on: April 03, 2006, 10:11:17 pm »
I respectfully disagree with you Janner. If you can find one single post in which i, or another representative of the SCoY did not respond to you, then i accept your accusation of us ignoring you. Otherwise, i hope you realize that we have really tried very very hard to respond to you as well as we can.. but yes, i felt personally attacked by some of your posts as, in my eyes, you have said many things without thinking about them and seriously seriously made me angry at times. And then, you refuse to apologize. This is fine. I certainly am not going to disband and quit. I can take it.

/me reads Zorbels post and braces for a flood of PMs.

PM me, email me, post here, yell at your computer. ill try to respond to everyone.

a very tired,
Easton Ghent
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« Reply #164 on: April 03, 2006, 10:17:05 pm »
/pat Easton on the back

Comment: I think you are doing a wonderful job Easton and you know you have alot of good people supporting you. So at the end of the day just remember we all appreciate you sticking your neck out for SCoY. :D

*offers Easton a strawberry*
« Last Edit: April 04, 2006, 06:47:40 am by zorbels »
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