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bit more gore in battle
« on: May 03, 2006, 11:02:13 am »
at the moment in battle nothing much happens hit swing hit swing i thought that there should be blood and cuts. u could even loose a limb making its useless. if you hit them in the hand and its a good damge or hateva u loose it. to get it back or whateva u have to go to lets say a hospital or whateva and if u dont get there in time u die. when u loose the hand it would become a item which you could only pick up. with the blood stuff just add three stages or sumthin like normal cut the really stuffed wit hrips in our armor and cuts wich after a while would heal (way quicker than real life say ten minutes) 

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006, 11:27:29 am »
In the RP games I usually play, there's something called a "critical hit" which is exactly that - you lose a limb, or a lung is punctured, or some other really serious damage is done to your person.  The thing is, what exactly is hit is left up to the imagination of the DM.  In planeshift, it would have to be described in absolute terms, and there would have to be graphics for it.

There are a few problems though, perhaps you can think up solutions?

- How can Planeshift have blood and gore, yet still be accessible to young players?
- After losing a limb, how and how well will a player recover?
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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2006, 09:35:38 pm »
I personally don't think blood an gore is needed at all. There are plenty of gory games out there where heads explode and guts pour out, planeshift doesn't need to be like that though. Planeshift is about roleplaying and a fantasy world .. not about fighting and explicit violence.

However I do think players should be able to get permanent wounds like fractures, infections and also diseases. These would be like critical hits, they don't happen very often but when they do they should do 'permanent' damage. With that I mean they should lower ones lifepoints with a set number until they are fixed, besides that there can be effects on stats as well as movement speed. Those wounds can't be healed by drinking a simple potion or infusing some crystal way energy, only skilled healers should be able to heal them and that will cost them a long time to do. It should be a complicated procedure with various bandages, herbs, potions, spells, etc. and every wound/illness would have its specific cure.
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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2006, 08:05:00 am »
if you have played WOW u will know what i mean by blood (drops flying around) and with the limb thing you would go to a hospital and get it put back on thru medical/magic ways. if u dont do it in bout 10 mins u die and get sent to the DR (u get ur limb back)

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2006, 10:08:02 am »
Why can't it be left up to one's imagination?
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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2006, 11:52:09 am »
I don't think more explicit violence is required...

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2006, 06:28:38 pm »
if you have played WOW u will know what i mean by blood (drops flying around) and with the limb thing you would go to a hospital and get it put back on thru medical/magic ways. if u dont do it in bout 10 mins u die and get sent to the DR (u get ur limb back)

first of all, whats the point in dieing if you lose a limb. Ive seen people live with no arms and no legs.

PS is a magical game. Preists/Monks can heal wounds and make limbs grow or mend them on. I think maybe a small bit of blood could make the effect of actually hitting the enemy more realistic. if you get stabbed through the heart with a pike,you wotn have a chance of being healed and then you go to the DR, Or if you got a leg cut off, your character would lie on the ground where the battle was for maybe 5 min RL time and wait to see if anyone comes. Then a popup menue would ask you if youd like ot end your life or keep waiting, maybe someone would find you.


- How can Planeshift have blood and gore, yet still be accessible to young players?

there could be a contract in the sign up that askes for your age. I know soe people would ignore this and say there older, but PS could be set with the gore settings off. This way if the player is young they wont no how to switch it on, preventing them from seeing it.or there could be a hidden setting that is hard to find and only the older people know where it is, or maybe its something you can unlock through a quest. Ex. A mage tells you that you are new to PS and your eyes arnt used to the Azure crystal.You have to complete 3 tasks in order to see things the way everyone else does....this way young ppl cant see anything unless they complete the tasks. And PeopleĀ  like Zanzibar and Zan dont even need to do the quest because they wouldnt like gor in the game.


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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2006, 07:48:27 pm »
I don't think Planeshift needs gore, remember Planeshift is not about combat, it's about roleplay. If you want blood flying around and limbs being chopped off you should play Doom 3.
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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2006, 11:47:40 pm »
Well, since CS apparently is capable of ragdoll effects, it might be interesting to see your limb go limp and drop your sword on a critical hit  (de-equip + drop item?)  I think dismemberment is going too far, and is really uncalled for.  As for "blood"  meh, doesn't have to be like an anime blood fountain you know, could just be a couple drops occasionally. Heck, most kids now adays play Resident Evil and Silent Hill and crap like that.  I don't think the guy's really asking for explicit gore, just a more definite effect or animation that lets you know that the enemy has taken a hit.  Roleplay is all well and good, but remember, it's still a graphical game. I don't see any problem with using your imagination, but then again, I don't see any problem with making combat look a little better either. Just because the game is roleplaying oriented doesn't mean you have to forsake making the game itself spiffy :)

And don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I'm a gore fanatic, and frankly I avoid games like Doom 3 like the plague. :P  Although Halflife 2 amused me for a week, but it was an offer from a friend so i'm like...eh, bored, i'll try it. but that's beside the point.  Just saying I'm not for and I'm not against gore. trying to keep a purely objective/neutral view here.

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2006, 07:37:25 am »
A red splash might be nice when you get a particularly good hit, but gore seems inappropriate to this particular game.  Kran probably don't have gore anyway, so I assume they'd be disappointing to disembowel. 

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2006, 08:01:38 am »
i think when i made the post i shouldnt hav use gore really with the blood thing just a few red bits on ur screen not like huge fountains that would be enuf for battle limbs yeah itd be beta but it depends if u liek that type of thing or not

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2006, 08:15:31 am »
Its a little unusual for whining about a little blood when someone gets hit when the Death Guardian has its spinal cord showing via a gaping hole in stomach.

That being said, I see no problem with blood and gore, but not to excess.
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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2006, 09:32:44 am »
First,I dont care for blood,I mean,if you want blood so badly go play something else,As said before above this game is roleplaying,but then again....Well i think if you want blood and gore,there should be an option in the options menu.

 
  if you have played WOW u will know what i mean by blood (drops flying around) and with the limb thing you would go to a hospital and get it put back on thru medical/magic ways. if u dont do it in bout 10 mins u die and get sent to the DR (u get ur limb back)


This game isnt World of Warcraft,Its a game called Planeshift. WOW is about going around killing,Planeshift is about Roleplaying.WOW has blood and gore,Planeshift doesnt....

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2006, 06:32:18 pm »
God damnit!
I Hate Hate Hate, how all these people keep going "zomg I wnt a free WoW plz" and always comparing this game to World of Warcraft and the rest.
Le sigh. I suppose it is to be expected.
They should shove a sticky at the top of every sub forum and forum telling everyone that "This Game is not World of Warcraft, nor does it try to be. Thank you".

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Re: bit more gore in battle
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2006, 11:16:12 pm »
God damnit!
I Hate Hate Hate, how all these people keep going "zomg I wnt a free WoW plz" and always comparing this game to World of Warcraft and the rest.
Le sigh. I suppose it is to be expected.
They should shove a sticky at the top of every sub forum and forum telling everyone that "This Game is not World of Warcraft, nor does it try to be. Thank you".

Rant over.

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