Why dont we seperate IRL and non IRL?

[zorbels]

Also, this is a roleplaying game is it not? The moment you drop your walls and let someone know the real you by showing them a picture, or telling them your age ... you begin to lose the fantasy of the game. You begin to mix RL with RP. You may not do this on purpose BUT it still happens.

That makes complete sense. I have to agree. Once those gaurds come down then you in fact do mix RL with RP, and I know for a fact it can get confusing. This is when people rely on communitcation and must be clear otherwise misunderstandings can occur. I think it is very hard to not get to know people behind the characters, especially when you have been apart of the communtiy for awhile. I still put my ooc comments in brackets in /tells just for my own security so I know for a fact the person cannot get confused as to what is real and what is not. I see your point Sarff in questioning what is real and what is not even if you think you know the person.

  I however don't agree that these people may have issues just because they might fall in love with the "text" as you say. Then again they could, but who really knows but them?  That is to general a topic for anyone to make assumptions. Unless you are them, and know you have issues who really is to say?

[Pestilence]

I am sorry if you percieve me as being rude Sarff, but I simply don't see it that way.

Yes I am being direct and don't beat around the bush on what I think about this matter. But if you start of calling people disturbing and say people have issues you can hardly expect them to turn lovydovy on you. Not agreeing with you and pointing out you are using vocabulary that might be offensive to some people isn't rude if thats simply the case.  It's also not saying that you can't voice your opinion it's simply pointing out this is a civilized forums where we respect eachother. Just as you have the right to say you feel I'm rude.

I think it's strange however that you seem say I can't point out that you shouldn't talk about  people in such a manner, but you do seem to think you are allowed to say I can't voice my opinion about it becuase you feel it's rude towards you.

[LigH]

People "fall in love with text" quite often, and this isn't exactly a new phenomenon. Before the internet, people did have books, and letters.

Yes - PlaneShift is just a more modern kind of "pen pal making"!

I am still a bit amused how serious some people can talk about such easy topics. I want to have fun in a game. I try my best to get that while not disturbing others too much. But I will not start to play my character(s) bloody seriously, a bit of my player's emotions will always remain.

[Waylander]

But I will not start to play my character(s) bloody seriously, a bit of my player's emotions will always remain.

I've got to say, this has got to be the best line in the whole thread.

[Nividia Stormlance]

I agree with you who are saying it is bad to trust random people. Somewhat,,, every person you meet can lie to you, the only thing that people can lie about that they can't in real life is their AGE.. GENDER and LOOK.. and it can be quite critical if a minor meets an old man and.... you know...

____
you cant completely hide your own immotions, feelings and thoughts. Example

Some chars got wives in PS
  NO chars (as far as i know[and I've been here for a long time]) got multiple wives!
      and i think if someone gets the first wive will become jaloux

[Sarff Rullan]

I am sorry if you percieve me as being rude Sarff, but I simply don't see it that way.

Yes I am being direct and don't beat around the bush on what I think about this matter. But if you start of calling people disturbing and say people have issues you can hardly expect them to turn lovydovy on you. Not agreeing with you and pointing out you are using vocabulary that might be offensive to some people isn't rude if thats simply the case.  It's also not saying that you can't voice your opinion it's simply pointing out this is a civilized forums where we respect eachother. Just as you have the right to say you feel I'm rude.

I think it's strange however that you seem say I can't point out that you shouldn't talk about  people in such a manner, but you do seem to think you are allowed to say I can't voice my opinion about it becuase you feel it's rude towards you.

Your not the only one who doesn't beat around the bush, join the club. Your last post seems to be still directed to my first post. I guess you won't be able to understand until you move past the first post I made and read the following posts to come. I have addressed your issue but you ignore it. What can I do if all you want to do is focus on basically two words. Oh wait I know what I can do ... I can give you a new sentance to focus on. ~points down to the bold text~ That one sentance should be enough for you to see that I wasn't trying to offend.

Pestilence I do have respect for people and again your words show me you didn't read a damn thing I said.  I explained my point of view in the last couple of posts. If you couldn't in the posts see that I  meant no disrespect and just made some good points ... backed up my point of view, then I am sorry you did not seem to get where I was coming from.

Anyway, Zorbels perhaps I was to abit to quick to say people could have issues. Who is really to say? Indeed you are correct. I still feel that way though. I think it is unhealthy. I apologise for my choice of words if in fact anyone was offened besides Pestilence. I do not however take back the disturbing comment. I meant it when I said ...

The person on the other end could not be who you think it is. I think that in fact is DISTRUBING, especially since this game allows minors.

[Gesene]

I think this is a fascinating thread.

From my perspective, I actually quite like that I don't have to reveal anything about me as a person in real life, and conversely do not know anything about other players in real life, and can therefore concentrate on the roleplaying. It makes it much cleaner than I am used to from roleplaying in live action events and tabletop, where time and again I've seen people react to me as a player rather than react to the character, particularly if the two aren't that congruent.

This is not because I am sinister and evil in real life TM - it's just nice to have that distance!

Having said that, it's also nice to play a female character without worrying about whether you have missed out on all the cool romance quests, as often can be the case in CRPGs. That's quite refreshing.

Gesene.

[Peacer]

i wouldn't mind to learn the persons behind the computers, doesn't bother me at all, i have seen the faces behind the players thread but my rp remain the same.

if someone uses planeshift to get in contact with miners that's just sick, sick i say

[Cyl]

if someone uses planeshift to get in contact with miners that's just sick, sick i say

That doesnt only count for useing planeshift...

[Pestilence]

Your last post seems to be still directed to my first post. I guess you won't be able to understand until you move past the first post I made and read the following posts to come. I have addressed your issue but you ignore it.

you didn't read a damn thing I said.

I have read your posts Sarff and I didn't comment on your arguments becuase I felt it had nothing to do with the words you chose to use and keep using. You say you don't want to offend, but as they say actions tell more then words.

I think it is unhealthy. I apologise for my choice of words if in fact anyone was offened besides Pestilence. I do not however take back the disturbing comment. I meant it when I said ...

You say you think I am offended, but that doesn't seem to matter to you. You haven't changed your choice of words and you seem to make a point to say "besides Pestilence" what is offending in itself in my opinion. How many people exactly need to be offended before it matters?

[Sarff Rullan]

I have read your posts Sarff and I didn't comment on your arguments becuase I felt it had nothing to do with the words your choice to use and keep using. You say you don't want to offend, but as they say actions tell more then words.

Whatever. You just picked out two words you didn't like and took it from there. You keep going and going and going .... You said you peace in three posts before, must you keep on about this?

I think it is unhealthy. I apologise for my choice of words if in fact anyone was offened besides Pestilence. I do not however take back the disturbing comment. I meant it when I said ...

You say you think I am offended, but that doesn't seem to matter to you. You haven't changed your choice of words and you seem to make a point to say "besides Pestilence" what is offending in itself in my opinion. How many people exactly need to be offended before it matters?

Thats because your looking at it that way. Don't flatter yourself Prestilence, I wasn't sitting there trying to think of skillful ways to offend you. You took that sentance the wrong way. Big surprise. I am not going to even bother explaining because it won't be read or read correctly for that matter. Your just looking for something to pick apart.  Have fun, find someone else to over analyze.

[Pestilence]

Sarff you don't understand or more likely chose not to understand what I am saying.

It's not about those two words. It's about the disrespect to other people that is shown in your posts that are reflected in that first post and also in your following posts eventhough it's less in there I admit, but if I was really nitpicking it would be easy to get phrases out those posts that show the same disrespect.

You semiappolagize but go right ahead with it and on top of that you acuse me of being the rude one. I haven't called you names or anything of the sort and if you don't want me to keep replying it might be a good idea to not keep refering to me by name even.

[Cyl]

Take your personal fights to PMs, ... remember we are talking about why/why not people should play characters which differ greatly from themselves, not about a sentence that might show offence if someone might understand it wrongly. If you need to go at each other's throats do so in PMs.

Back on topic:

I wasnt saying that men and women are all different, but still I think that a woman can do the best job at playing a woman to be beliveable (or vice versa), ..., as said before I actually bow before everyone who can play a role that is different from himself, and still make it beliveable.

[Sarff Rullan]

I haven't called you names or anything of the sort and if you don't want me to keep replying it might be a good idea to not keep refering to me by name even.

  I don't believe I have called you a name either so why  did that come up? No wait don't answer that ....  Anyway enough already. Your post says what the rest of them do. You haven't made any new points. Just the same one over and over. Again I say, find someone else to over analyze. My point of view still stands and I still feel the same way as I felt when I first posted in this thread. Had I known you would flip out over certian words I might have used them differently. I was never trying to offend anyone and had stated so a couple of times. Get the point already as you seem to be the only one offended.

What happened in my eyes: I posted my opinion, you Pestilence followed up with a post I felt was rude explaining that maybe I shouldn't say those things in that manner as people might take offence. I posted a response explaining why I felt that way so that people WOULDN'T feel offened. It should have been left there.

Either way Cyl is right if you would like to continue this PM me otherwise just let it go already.

[sesmi]

People are probably going to be better role-playing their own gender.