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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2006, 09:45:04 am »
My experiences with them contrast greatly to yours.

Sorry to hear that.

As I said before .... the door swings both ways. I have seen others against this guild act out in the ways they complain about. Basically my point is the ones who do this shouldn't throw stones until they can clean up their roleplaying skills.



Ok... so I'm still allowed to throw stones?

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OOC no and i slap you  ;)
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2006, 10:17:01 am »
My experiences with them contrast greatly to yours.

Sorry to hear that.

As I said before .... the door swings both ways. I have seen others against this guild act out in the ways they complain about. Basically my point is the ones who do this shouldn't throw stones until they can clean up their roleplaying skills.



Ok... so I'm still allowed to throw stones?

IC yes
OOC no and i slap you  ;)


So I'm still allowed to throw stones OOC?
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2006, 03:54:27 pm »
My experiences with them contrast greatly to yours.

Sorry to hear that.

As I said before .... the door swings both ways. I have seen others against this guild act out in the ways they complain about. Basically my point is the ones who do this shouldn't throw stones until they can clean up their roleplaying skills.



Ok... so I'm still allowed to throw stones?

Nice try. First line is for you Zanzibar. Second line is to general public.
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2006, 04:56:40 pm »
Hello,

I am the head of the Dwarvesbane guild. Our newest member Beanius is the one that I think is the subject of this thread. He told me what happened after the incident occured. I had him send me his logs, and I read through them. I wasn't there, but based on his story (of course it is from one perspective, so I take with a grain of salt) plus the chat logs, here is what seems to have happened:

Beanius was sharing the 15PP rogue with some others for a while, then he accidentally took one out of turn (may or may not be true, no way for me to know, but I've done it by accident before when distracted, so I believe him). Someone who will remain unnamed called him a "f-ing noob" and a few other swear-words (this is clearly seen in the logs). He got mad, and began hogging the rogue for a few rounds, and said several times that if that person would stop calling him names, he would stop hogging. The insults continued, and everyone then began "racing" for the rogue. Then the unnamed person called over several other players, including one experienced player that I know, who used a magic trick bug to steal it after he had started fighting it (exploitation of a bug and punishable, if I'm not mistaken).

Beanius left for a while, and returned. According to the log, he simply said "Hello" and was rewarded by another stream of insults. Then Shalmaneser showed up, and began taking the rogue for himself for a few rounds. Beanius saw how he used melee and "defensive" to hog the rogue for a long time. After Shalmaneser left, Beanius used this tactic a couple of times, which really got the other two worked up.

I talked with him after reading the logs, and told him that I would have been tempted to hog the rogue after being insulted too, but that also punishes other players wanting to share. Also I suggested that he apologize to the person. Even though it looks like both parties were partly to blame, I think it is best to work things out with an apology, making the game more enjoyable for all. Also, I told him to never, ever follow the example of Shal/Shalmaneser, as he is probably the most irritating and unliked player in the game. Following Shalmaneser's example will make our entire guild look bad. He should not have use melee/defensive to hog the rogue.

He immediately went back and talked to the other party, apologized, the other player also more-or-less apologized, and they patched things up, and continued to share the rogue in peace for quite a while.

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« Last Edit: May 10, 2006, 04:59:42 pm by Drahlian »

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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2006, 05:04:41 pm »
hmm...this increased my respect for the dwarfsbane guild (no sarcasm)
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2006, 06:45:21 pm »
Hello,

Then the unnamed person called over several other players, including one experienced player that I know, who used a magic trick bug to steal it after he had started fighting it (exploitation of a bug and punishable, if I'm not mistaken).

I am sorry to inform you, that you're information is a bit outdated, Drahlian.
When you are hitting a rogue, no one else can take over a NPC anymore for some time already.
A few Game Masters (including me) tried to reproduce the old bug some time ago and
we got the message that we are not allowed to attack, because the NPC is already in combat.
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2006, 07:21:03 pm »
I`m sorry to inform you that your information is a bit outdated, Tarel.
The bug is not completely fixed and a /report is already on its way to the developers.

We all know that it is not fixed, from our own experience, so this does not relieve the experienced player from exploiting a bug.

That GM`s don`t see it means not that it does not exist.

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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2006, 08:24:02 pm »
My experiences with them contrast greatly to yours.

Sorry to hear that.

As I said before .... the door swings both ways. I have seen others against this guild act out in the ways they complain about. Basically my point is the ones who do this shouldn't throw stones until they can clean up their roleplaying skills.



Ok... so I'm still allowed to throw stones?

Nice try. First line is for you Zanzibar. Second line is to general public.


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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2006, 08:31:18 pm »
Zanzibar=comic relief


and at Herleva= was there any reason to mock him there?  You could have kindly let him know, and remember...he is a GM..it would be nice to be respectful
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2006, 08:34:38 pm »
Shalmaneser showed up, and began taking the rogue for himself for a few rounds. Beanius saw how he used melee and "defensive" to hog the rogue for a long time. After Shalmaneser left, Beanius used this tactic a couple of times, which really got the other two worked up... I told him to never, ever follow the example of Shal/Shalmaneser, as he is probably the most irritating and unliked player in the game. Following Shalmaneser's example will make our entire guild look bad. He should not have use melee/defensive to hog the rogue.


(21:38:24) E. says: shal beanius isnt sharing and being called names for it
(21:38:29) A. says: erm mate for passed 5 mins i havent got near rouge
(21:38:45) Shalmaneser says: While there's no reason why he has to share,
(21:38:47) A. says: and he thinks he has right to patition me
(21:38:54) Shalmaneser says: Petition you? On what?
(21:38:59) Shalmaneser says: Harassment?
(21:39:05) A. says: erm how about destroying the game for others
(21:39:06) Beanius tells group: Player Shalmaneser has joined the group!
(21:39:10) Shalmaneser tells group: ???
(21:39:23) Beanius says: Yes, he called a "f***ing noob" a couple times, and about a half dozen other nasty names.
(21:39:23) Shalmaneser says: No, I mean why is he complaining about you?
(21:39:29) A. says: yes and all i have been trying to do is get my fair turn
(21:39:33) Shalmaneser says: There is only one solution!
(21:39:56) E. says: good idea lol
(21:40:16) Shalmaneser says: No one can have the rogue!
(21:40:18) A. says: im next
(21:40:21) Shalmaneser says: It's the only fair way!
(21:40:43) Beanius tells you: He was hogging the rogue all morning, after me and two other people were having fun taking turns.
(21:40:59) Shalmaneser says: I've guessed.
(21:41:06) Shalmaneser says: And he's been calling you names and going out of character.
(21:41:08) Beanius tells you: Then when we grouped to try to get a rogue, he started calling me a "f***ing noob"
(21:41:23) Shalmaneser says: Let a Game Master handle it.
(21:41:46) Beanius tells you: I am a "noob" but I don't like being called nasty names over and over.
(21:42:10) You tell Beanius: make a petition, save the log
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2006, 08:46:07 pm »
em...huuu...Shalmaneser, can you give an explanation to your log file?
I don`t believe that anybody get the point of your post.

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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2006, 08:50:05 pm »
i think it was just proof that those people were calling him names in the game...
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2006, 08:55:34 pm »
i think it was just proof that those people were calling him names in the game...


Nope.  Drahlian accused me of a number of nasty things. :'(  To celebrate \\o// her maturity :ban:, I posted a log :detective:  of what was said before I walked away from it.   :surrender:
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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2006, 09:18:08 pm »
I see that you have posted a log, but my question was: What is your intention and what does the log show us?

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Re: im having trouble contacting the dwarvesbane guild master
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2006, 09:23:13 pm »
I see that you have posted a log, but my question was: What is your intention and what does the log show us?

*Herleva looks still confused*

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