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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2006, 02:23:30 pm »
Quote from: Jekkar on June 21, 2006, 12:45:23 am
The dutch just came out of a group also known as the poule of death. I can't say much good about the poule germany was in, a broken Poland and some south american country nobody put hope in anyway. The dutch are already through, we survived so that means it can only get easier from now on considering we beaten both a very strong Ivory Coast and strong defending (at least for our match) Serbia & Montenegro. We'll see what happens tommorow in the match against Argentine. If we beat them then i'll keep an eye out on Holland if I were you.
Yes, the "poule of death", what a nice, frightening name... But serious: It's pure exaggeration. Up to now neither Ivory Coast nor Serbia + Montenegro did win at least one match in this group, showing that they aren't really a threat (not even to Holland, I may add;)). The only real opponent in this group is Argentinia, and they won't make it too easy for the Dutch to win. So if you call a group with one strong team (Argentinia) a "poule of death", well...

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We're already though to the next round, Argentina wasn't able to stop us!
The Dutch did not even play against them yet, but you are right: no matter who wins the match today, Argentinia or the Dutch, the Dutch team is in the next round, the round of 16.

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And you know the Dutch just own the entire football world right? The reason we haven't won for a while is because of this conspiracy of all the other football countries against us.
Do you even believe that? I don't, except if you call a normal world cup a "conspiracy of all the other football countries".... :P

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And to add: Germany is going DOWN!
Blasphemer! ;) If you said Netherlands is going down, it would be nearer to the truth.... (in a double sense of meaning;))
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2006, 05:28:04 pm »
Looks like someone has a grudge against Dutch people. Maybe we should get some stats for you to better understand. The dutch are ranked 3rd in the Fifa ranking, Argentina 9th and Germany 19th. That's the rankings counted in points won by playing all the matches through the year. At one point Holland was ranked 2nd. Holland won more matches against Argentine then matches lost.

Ow and I didnt call it the poule of death, thats what the media calls it. If you compare this poule to the other crappy poules where uber soccer country's are put in a group with 3rd-world country's then yes you can call it "the poule of death". And if you read the newspapers instead of watching europort reruns of matches from 1974, you might knew some more about the current teams.
I'm not saying Germany or Argentina can't win the world cup, but don't go around dissing Holland cause our team isnt that bad.
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2006, 06:55:21 pm »
Quote from: Jekkar on June 21, 2006, 05:28:04 pm
Looks like someone has a grudge against Dutch people.
Wrong, I don't have a grudge against Dutch people. I just expressed my opinion that it's quite unlikely that the Dutch team will win the world cup, not more, not less. I don't see any kind of grudge in that.

Quote from: Jekkar on June 21, 2006, 05:28:04 pm
Maybe we should get some stats for you to better understand. The dutch are ranked 3rd in the Fifa ranking, Argentina 9th and Germany 19th. That's the rankings counted in points won by playing all the matches through the year. At one point Holland was ranked 2nd.
Ah, yes the ranking.... Let me just reply to this with a quote:
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli
The FIFA ranking might -to some extent- also count as statistics in the above meaning.
Although this is a bit exaggerated in general, the FIFA ranking in particular has some "issues" which are not so good for a ranking. For example if one team often wins against (very) weak teams, it can get quite a high ranking, though it is not really quite as good as other teams with a similar position on the list. For example, USA is currently on the 5th, but (nothing against USA) is the US team really better than Spain, Portugal, France, Argentina and England (ranked 6th to 10th)? ;)

Another issue is that countries, which host international events (like Germany in this year), don't participate in matches to qualify themselves for these events, because they are set as participant from the very beginning. Thus they don't have so much possibilities to gain points for that ranking, which can lead to a lower rank. ;)
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2006, 08:35:51 pm »
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And you know the Dutch just own the entire football world right? The reason we haven't won for a while is because of this conspiracy of all the other football countries against us.
Do you even believe that? I don't, except if you call a normal world cup a "conspiracy of all the other football countries"....
What do you reckon :lol:

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Wrong, I don't have a grudge against Dutch people. I just expressed my opinion that it's quite unlikely that the Dutch team will win the world cup, not more, not less. I don't see any kind of grudge in that.
You're wrong, you'll see!
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Blasphemer! If you said Netherlands is going down, it would be nearer to the truth.... (in a double sense of meaning;))
Germany will be crushed anyway ;)
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2006, 09:59:49 pm »
Aww, you're putting too much pressure on us Swedes, Arcane :P Sure we have a good team but they've got a good worldranking, we'll see :)
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2006, 10:52:07 pm »
Well, The Netherlands and Argentina proved to be equally good. 0 - 0
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2006, 10:53:11 pm »
Yup, good result considering they both played with b teams.
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2006, 12:31:34 am »
Quote from: Jekkar on June 21, 2006, 05:28:04 pm

Ow and I didnt call it the poule of death, thats what the media calls it. If you compare this poule to the other crappy poules where uber soccer country's are put in a group with 3rd-world country's then yes you can call it "the poule of death". And if you read the newspapers instead of watching europort reruns of matches from 1974, you might knew some more about the current teams.


Im not sure how that would be.. Group E consists of The US(Ranked 5th but didnt show it in their first game), Italy and the Czech Republic.. That is a pretty tough group as well.
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2006, 06:41:30 am »
WOOOOO!!! ~~ITALIA!!~~ Italy is my pick for the cup, although all the star players keep gettin hurt  :'(  That match against U.S.A was totally screwed up. The refs were being totally unfare to both teams. U.S didnt deserve the red card and Italy was stupid enough to score on themselves :o I say that both teams played like crap that day :thumbdown: Italy better not play like that again or else.......Ima Gonna Cry  :'(
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2006, 08:13:04 am »
Okay, this world rankings are the worst rankings in any sport ever.. hell in any thing!  Please, stop mentioning them.

I'll put it in way that MMORPGs can understand.

1 guy kills a dragon, hardest creature in the game BUT he is ranked lower because

ZOMG

one guy

he killed two rats!!!

The weakest creatures in the game but...there were two of them!!! O.o

European countries (Some of the best in the world) play each other most often.

Whereas the states (ranked 5th) play North and Central American countries, and, I love Canada, but Canada just isn't as good as say, France.

On the topic of the states though, yeah, that was easily the worst called match I've seen in ages but, no matter how fair the refing had been, they were lucky to get away with the tie.

http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,23914-Feb-2006,00.html <---Concacaf (USA, Canada, Mexico)
http://www.fifa.com/en/mens/statistics/index/0,2548,27275-Feb-2006,00.html <---UEFA (Europe)


I LOVE soccer, but the ranking system is an insult to anything it is related to.
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2006, 12:22:59 am »
I agree with you, Waylander. A change should be made to the global ranking system. Sweden has gone even with world teams as England but they're still on 14th place ad England's got a better chance against Brazil(which is, of course world #!) but they're ranked 10. It's a bit messed up, that's all i'm saying.
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2006, 11:01:34 pm »
waaaa..
Portugal 1 x Netherlands 0
go go portugal
next england :devil:
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2006, 11:05:31 pm »
Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
In the match about 4 red cards and about 17 yellow cards were handed out, it was a pretty tough match. But The Netherlands got some cards which they didn't deserve, there was a lot of faking injuries on Portugal's side. We also had some missed opportunities. What a shame, I really have the feeling we could've won.  :(
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2006, 11:10:51 pm »
4 red cards...new world cup record, at least we have that one then.
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Re: WC 2006
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2006, 11:17:03 pm »
Indeed, always look at the bright side of things! :lol:

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