Thus it ends.

[Xordan]

You can contact GMs by creating a petition. At least, you could the last time I checked.

[Janner]

Type /who game

 grins

[Induane]

You can contact GMs by creating a petition. At least, you could the last time I checked.

That works long term.... I meant a way to contact them ingame immeadiately...

/who game

[Xordan]

GMs get alerted when a petition is made. They should check it fairly quickly really....

[Proglin]

Yes, the /who game command shows the GM's that are online. And petition are used to contact GM's in a more indirect way.

[neko kyouran]

@Induane

'/who' is a command that lists players currently online.  Using game as a search modifier will return all those players currently online with the word game in thier name and or guild name.

Say Bakuun was online in game, doing a '/who game' command would return:  Bakuun, level (what ever level she is) of Game Masters, or something very close to that, I forget the exact wording.

Mirashi, threads evolve, that is thier nature.  If this really is so offtopic, the forum mods would split it.  Have a little faith in your forum mods, they tend to have sound judgement most of the time.

[Akaye]

Instead of picking roleplayers, you should pick people who will actually test, and help others.

I do all of those things. 

So let me get this straight ....... because you can't find anyrhing on the forums about my testing the game, means I don't test the game? Well if someone asked me instead of just taking it upon themselves to assume I don't, I would tell that person that I test the game everytime I am logged on. I have always reported through petitions and IRC. I just recently found out that posting my findings in the forums was the proper way to go about it. Most of what I find has been reported by another player already.

Now as a Gm I have responsiblities. I accepted that I was to help people in game. For example if they were stuck and needed moving or a name change because the name didn't fit into the planeshift settings. I am there to take petitions, and help resolve any conflicts that may arise between players. I am here to answer any questions with answers that are not considered spoilers for newbies. I am here to help make more roleplay events for the players of planeshift to enjoy.  I am to report any bugs that I may find, or give ideas about the game that I think Talad and the devs may find helpful. I am here for many more things I am sure I don't know yet because I just started not even three days ago with being a GM ...... between my new full time job and a Gm guide presented to me by Talad I still have a ton to learn.

I think a few posts back someone mentioned only favorites becoming GM's, and I think that person was right, because I digged in Zorbels' history and found her in a lot of stories and RP events, along with a few others such as Rilar, and Keyaz.

Where in all of this do you see roleplayer? Gm characters are OOC, and Zorbels the charcter has nothing, absolutely NOTHING to do with my Gm character. It is the face behind the player that got the Gm job, not the character Zorbels. Otherwise I would be using Zorbels for my Gm character.

I am insulted just a tiny bit that you think I recieved this title as a gm only because I roleplay or favortisim. Though in a silly way that can also be taken as a compliment. I recieved this job as a gm because I like to help people, I am a fair person, I am smart, I have been dedicated to this game for a year and two months, I have developed good relationships in planeshift with many of the players, I listen, I pay attention to detail, and because I passed the interview which has nothing to do with anyone but Talad. I have never meet Talad in my life, so I am pretty sure I didn't get the title Gm because I am favored. Also roleplay is a big part of the game, so it is an added bonus if the Gm has such a skill set. When Noxide (Another Gm) came in to game, I had not seen him once roleplay. He was more for the technical side of the game. People complianed to my own ears that he didn't roleplay enough to be a gm. Now I am being told I roleplay to much and thats the only reason I got the job .... well that and favortisim. I think Mirashi you should perhaps research a little more, because not everything I have said and done revolves around roleplay.

@ everyone: This thread started out being Proglins thread about his tournaments, and how a certain "TWO" people had been causing him headaches with his tournaments. I don't think it was his intention to have people gang up on the Gm team and begin to point out faults or have the public make up a system for the Gm team. IF you all take a look at the bigger picture you will see that the team is to small to meet the publics demands right now and the rules we follow aren't set by us, we just follow them.

Look at the list, some of these people are full time students and getting ready to go back to school after a summer of visiting family and their vactions. They may even on top of that have part time jobs. Some of them have full time jobs. Some of them have other activities besides sitting at the computer all day serving PS players. Some of them are devs and have other responsiblities to the game. Some of them have families they need to spend time with because that is important. One Gm I know of likes to travel alot and doesn't always have access to a computer. Oh and lets not forget that some where in all of this we need to eat, sleep, and meet our basic daily needs. Please keep in mind that Gm's try to do their best and will continue too. We follow the rules that have been given to us and put in time when we are avalible.

Uyaem -- GMlvl: 5; timezone: GMT+1
Bakuun -- timezone: GMT-8
Akaye -- GMlvl: 4; timezone: GMT-07.00
Chaos -- GMlvl: 4; timezone: GMT-5
Hadfael -- GMlvl: 4; timezone: GMT+1
Kerol -- GMlvl: 4; timezone: GMT+1
Drey -- GMlvl: 3; timezone: BST (for a while)
Frostmorn -- GMlvl 2
Noxide -- GMlvl: 2; timezone: GMT
Syilph -- GMlvl: 2; timezone: GMT+2
Tarel -- GMlvl: 2; timezone: GMT+1

Now to address the inactive issue: If a Gm becomes unable to preform tasks in planeshift due to a busy schedule, I don't think that is fair to say that they should be stripped of their title. That is like giving someone an award because they are a great artist. Then taking the award away because they stopped drawing. How is that fair?  They are still a good artist but they have found other responsiblities and activities in their life and can't just focus on the one. So they should be punished for expanding their knowledge? Give me a break!

[Mirashi]

You can contact GMs by creating a petition. At least, you could the last time I checked.

I've had a petition up for about a week now that has gone unchecked, and I submitted another about 2 days ago, which is also still floating around in my petition box. No one's checking them. I haven't gone ingame to check if they're still there or not, but I'm getting annoyed.

And Ayake, I'm sorry, right now I'm treating all the GM's as one. Like I said, I don't really know you, nor have I seen you ingame, but people are excited you're a GM, so I'm sure you'll do a good job. It's just I've seen a lot of GM's so far that hang out on the forums - a place they don't even moderate - and completely stay out of game. The only GM I saw online so far today was Noxide, and my petitions still haven't been picked up. They're bug reports, so I could report them on the bugtracker, but before I do I want to make sure with a GM that it hasn't already been reported.

But still, moderaters should stay on the forums, GM's should stay ingame. I've seen times when there have been 4 GM's on the forums, and none ingame, which by the way the servers WERE up at that time. It's disgusting to me, and I hope you, Ayake, can make a difference like everyone says.

Edit: I just checked ingame, and someone got my petitions. Thanks whoever did.

But at the same time, three GM's are on the forums, none ingame.

[Easton]

Now to address the inactive issue: If a Gm becomes unable to preform tasks in planeshift due to a busy schedule, I don't think that is fair to say that they should be stripped of their title. That is like giving someone an award because they are a great artist. Then taking the award away because they stopped drawing. How is that fair?  They are still a good artist but they have found other responsiblities and activities in their life and can't just focus on the one. So they should be punished for expanding their knowledge? Give me a break!

Zorbels (do you mind if i stick with Zorbels?) you know i respect you, just like everyone in this community, btu i have to respectfully disagree with your analogy here.. I don't think the GM title is an award in anyway. Some people may seek it out as a status symbol, and it is those people who i do not respect, as players, or GMs. It tends to be those people who finally get to be GM and think they can sit on their throne (IRC) and watch the peasants mingle. To me, being a GM is a job, not in ANY WAY an award. It is another responsibility. A way to help the community, to moderate it, to keep it in line. But most importantly, help it. People who fail to do this job for an extended period of time should be removed. Just like when you have a guild member who is inactive for a long period of time with no notification. It is of course, up to the powers that be to remove them, and to decide how long is too long.

Note: Im not saying you (Zorbels) sought to be GM as an award. I know you well, and i know you wouldn't do that. I think you'll do great, and i can't wait to see you in action. I just really don't want people to think being a GM is an award. Because it isn't.

Easton

Edit: Mirashi: previously you stated that Kerol was on the forums but not ingame, but i have to say you may be inaccurate in a sense.. you see.. I'd argue that Kerol is probably the most active GM we have right now (in-game-wise). Just thought i'd point it out..

[Mirashi]

Well I've failed to see him ingame in two days, while he's been on the forums for a long time.

When people agree to become GM's, they take on a handful of responsibilities, yet when they actually become a GM, they don't do crap. This is the point I'm getting at: Get your lazy asses ingame and HELP! Yesterday my friend was stuck in the coding, and unstick wouldn't work. She was lagging badly, and the only way out was /die. I looked for a GM in the online list, but guess what? No one was online. She had to /die, and 30 minutes later she finally got back, spiking really badly. Every day something happens, but the GM's would rather stay on the forums and try to defend their good names, instead of actually do what they're saying they'll do. If you're going to say you help others, HELP THEM. If you say you're going to test, and submit bugs, DO IT. If you say you're going to read petitions and help out, DO IT. Don't just SIT HERE on the FORUMS, a place you DO NOT moderate, and try to defend your names with a bunch of bullcrap you never do. This is the worst form of lazyness I've seen on a GM team in ANY game. I'm disgusted with it. ESPECIALLY when GM's will idle ingame, and sit there for about an hour with my tell to them just sitting there asking them for help. An example would be Tarel - who I sent a tell to about an hour before he logged out. He just sat there afk, and I kept checking the /who game list every 10 minutes. After about the 6th try he was gone, and my tell was never answered, and I was never helped.

Like I said before: When you become a GM, you take on a HANDFUL of responsibilities. You can't afford to sit around like this making up crap to try and defends yourselves. Here, Ayake, a few people are saying they're glad you're a GM, you'll make a difference, but I still fail to see you ingame, and right now I consider you just like the others - lazy, and unwilling to go ingame for about 10 minutes without going afk to help people. If you can't do these simple things, you don't even deserve to be a GM. I don't care how many friends you have, but right now, as a GM, you have to take on the responsibilities, not sit here having everyone kiss up to you. I don't care if you get offended by this, it's the TRUTH, and I'm dead tired of it. We need ACTIVE GM's, who know what the word responsible means.

Edit: Now there are four GM's on the forums, NONE ingame. This is REALLY disgusting...

[Akaye]

The only GM I saw online so far today was Noxide, and my petitions still haven't been picked up. They're bug reports, so I could report them on the bugtracker, but before I do I want to make sure with a GM that it hasn't already been reported.

  Sometimes the bugs you report have already been reported. As I said in my last post, it is better to report your bugs on the forums in the technical section. This is what I have been told by some Gm's, and Dev's.

But still, moderaters should stay on the forums, GM's should stay ingame. I've seen times when there have been 4 GM's on the forums, and none ingame, which by the way the servers WERE up at that time. It's disgusting to me, and I hope you, Ayake, can make a difference like everyone says.

I am not allowed to voice my opinion on the forums because I am a gm now? That seems silly, a Gm is only another player but with experience with the game. Plus we represent planeshift. I think it is a great idea that Gm's are active on the forums. It helps new comers understand and see how this community is. If Gm's didn't answer on the forums then people would start to get upset about Gm's "not caring" as they have done with the dev's in the past.

But at the same time, three GM's are on the forums, none ingame.

Maybe they are all busy. I know I am.   I am sitting here having my morning coffee, trying to stay caught up with planeshift before I have to go for a nine hour shift in a half hour.

To me, being a GM is a job, not in ANY WAY an award

PLease by all means stick with Zorbels. I am ok with that, people have become used to calling me that. The two characters just have different responsiblities.
 
*hugs* Easton my friend you are mixing up my example. In no way did I say that Gming is a reward. No way!!! It is alot of work, and that is what I was trying to get at. People seem to be expecting miracles from the Gms. What they are not understanding is we have lives, and we move on. We have other things that interest us and it isn't fair to strip them of their title because they seek out new things to do in life. Also we are a small team, we can only do so much. I think once we have a bigger team these issues won't be there as much. I do agree though, if a Gm is in IRC and they have the time to help a player but don't (or at least doesn't have a good reason on why they can't help if they are active in IRC), then maybe they should reconsider being a Gm. After all that shows they are not commented as they once were and that is just being plan out lazy. Idling in IRC is not a tell tale that the gm doesn't want to help though if they haven't been entering text. They could just simply not be there.

[Easton]

Where to begin..

@Mirashi: First off.. when you are stuck in the coding you should use /unstick. if that fails, then you use /die. if for some reason you cannot use /die, then you contact a GM. GMs are a sort of last resort in that case. I've only had GMs port me a few times and that was because my game would freeze and i wasn't able to use /die. But guess where they port you?? the DR. So /die and contacting a GM are the same thing. Just contacting a GM takes longer sometimes since they have to locate you and whatnot.

Secondly.. I have this nagging feeling (and please don't take this the wrong way, im trying to be very very fair here and im not putting you or anyone else down in any way) that you may be relatively new to the community. Which is fine. But that being said, i think you should take a bit more time than you already have to see how the GMs are. Typically, a GM coming on once every two days is a great record. And that is generally considered active.

As for GMs not answering your /tells: i assure you they are not ignoring you. Many times they are busy with other PS-related things and may not be able to answer your call every second. It is reccommended that you give them a /tell and wait a few minutes. Everyone goes AFK from time to time for a snack, or some other reason, and you may have caught them at a bad time.

Basically, im defending those GMs which i consider active and, in my book, "good". Kerol is one of them. There are some other names you could have mentioned and i would have totally agreed with you. This is just me trying to be fair. Not an attack, and definitely not a flame.

@Zorbels: i don't mean to say, "if a GM is in IRC they're in the wrong place." Many of those GMs i respect go in IRC regularly, and this is a good thing. But anyways.. i still do think if GMs are neglecting their duties, for a good reason or otherwise, if it has been long enough, maybe they should be removed if they don't answer to a poke or two. Just a suggestion.

Easton

[Mirashi]

They are right though, you are a nice GM Ayake. And you're right, GM's are players too, and they have a life also. But, if you can't actually go ingame to do your job and help others and things, you should lay down the GM role and wait until you have time to actually do it.  Same with the other three GM's who are on the forums right now, if they don't have time to actually go ingame, then they should lay down their role. We need active GM's, not idle GM's who come on the forum once every 4 hours and try to defend themselves with some crap saying they help others, because as I see it, they just like to show off their flashy Game Master label on the forums, and try to make people kiss up to them with lies. I want to see someone do something, not sit here and make up lies. People need help all the time, which a lot of times isn't just questions that can be asked in the help channel, but instead real problems that only a GM can help with.

I do know a few nice GM's, but when it comes right down to it, other players, like Easton, Janner, and Constrabus, actually do their job better than the GM's themselves. They help others when they can, and even though they don't have any powers, can solve a lot of problems. Now if we could get some actual GM's to do that, with their powers that can get people out of tight situations, and submit bugs and things, there would be no problem. Instead, I'm seeing a lot of lazyness.

[Akaye]

Here, Ayake, a few people are saying they're glad you're a GM, you'll make a difference, but I still fail to see you ingame, and right now I consider you just like the others - lazy, and unwilling to go ingame for about 10 minutes without going afk to help people.

What you just said is really rather rude and shows how closed minded you are. Do you have a full time job? Would you want to start out your day with people demanding you to go into game and do things for them?  Or would you just want to have your coffee and sit and chat with your daughter (I have one) and read up on the forums? She is telling me about what she has been doing all week because I haven't seen her much. Which is more important to me do you think? Listing to your whinning about gm's being in game or hearing how her week went. What do you think is more important to her? PLus as I have mentioned in my other post (And this clearly tells me you are being lazy and not reading them) that I have yet to learn my job. What use would I be to the people of planeshift if my answers were always "I don't know?" I need to read the Gm guide that Talad gave me and learn the commands.

Do you think I am stupid enough to just go into game and start Gming, or smart to sit down and actually read what I am and am not allowed to do. I think Talad would prefer the last I suggested. Why do you think people are excited that I made gm? I can tell you why, because I don't rush into things and when I do a job I do it right. I put time, thought and effort into it. If you think you can do better then why don't you apply for the gm team? Your rants are becoming tiresome. I will enter the game when I damn well feel like it and when I have the TIME. I am NOT here for your beck and call. Now if you'll excuse me I have to log off to feed my daughter (because that is more important than helping someone out of the DR in the game :/ ) and then go to work.

[Janner]

 Mirashi I am sorry but you must give her a chance she is right she must learn first, as for  the research you did, sorry but it does not add up, you admit you don't know her in game I do  and she puts a lot of hard work into this game, so  I for one think she will do the same as a GM, so please give her first time to learn her JOB.