SO YOUR NOT GETTING YOUR WAY? get over it...

[Verrliit]

hmm an ic betrayal like the one with janeous didn't hurt me, it amused me

If you have no emotional involvement or investment, you are playacting, not role-playing.


Players can play shallowly, without involving their feelings, if that is enough for them.

Not everyone is a storyteller.

No one has to RP, if they don't want to.

But please be aware that many do, don't spoil the fun of others, and don't hurt anyone on purpose.


To those that would force things on others, I point out:

There are an awful lot more others, than there are of you.

(There are rumors that objectionable players have been eaten, in some cases...)

And getting what you want from other players, is vastly more satesfying if they want to, rather than have to.


~Verrliit~

[Xylaal]

I have found that in reality there exists all different interpretations of RP, some where IC and OOC is indistiguishable, some where the difference is clearly defined and every permutation in between (which is all good)...thus, I have found it useless to make a blanket rule in a case like this.

Instead, when I was threatened, I tried to reason...when that failed, I ignored it...I totally ignored the flamer.  It went away eventually...the threateners friends did not do what he said they'd do to me, they were better than that. I find you'll have to meet a pretty infantile group of folks to come across one that wants to treat you badly ingame ; in which case it's probably a good idea not to RP with those folks anyway.

On the whole, I've found the majority of folks pretty flexible when it comes to other's inclusion and styles of RP.   

[Drey]

As for skype, there is an ignore feature.

s'one ingame too... people should try using that if they find things such a bother.

[Karyuu]

I was told either in here or in game [sorry can't remember which and I have searched here] that Devs/Gms don't have time to trawl through pages of report logs so they are virtually ignored.

Nonsense. I check reports daily.

[Lolitra, Celorrim Purrty Twins]

If people have a problem about the way someone is acting there's a thread about it.
We thank Drey for pointing this out.  But the form of bullying I am on about is not that severe...  it is just to a point of sapping the fun out of play.  Espacially when there are a number of people 'tell'ing the same thing to sway how you play with that person. 

We whole heartedly apologise for making a thread which has already, obviously been debated.   But hey, it let us vent out our feelings in a safe and out of game environment - thus not ruining the ingame experience of others.

This thread is now probably best closed now?

[Induane]

Yes, you're probably right... of course I'm being hypocritical by saying that and then posting back but....

<rant>

DOWN WITH UBER RP'rs THEY SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF RP AND JUST FUN IN GENERAL !!  DOWN WITH THEM --- DOWN --DOWN ---DOWN!!!!

</rant>

[sesmi]

The general intent of the game is against the uber RP ideal. people get RP mixed up with playacting.

[Farren Kutter]

http://qdb.ps-mc.com/?1

I agree, RPing definitely conflicts with this xD.

[Under the moon]

Lets equate this to a bunch of children given coloring books and a box of crayons. There are those that try to color as many pictures as possible, without worrying about if it looks right, or staying in the lines. When the book is full, they go home, or get a new one. Then there are those that follow every line, and make sure the sky is always blue, the grass is always green, and everything in between is right. They sometimes even lay out the crayons they will be using next to the book in the order they will be using them. Then there are those that purposefully ignore the lines. Not to mess up the picture, but to give it their own touch. All of these are the good kids. The ones that sit together and play. They will look at the way the others colored, and sometimes think it something they could use in their own pictures.

But then there are the bad kids. Sure, some of them may color great pictures, but they also expect everyone else’s pictures to be just as good, and match their own exactly. If everyone does not make the same drawing, with the same colors in the same places, these kids will throw a tantrum. Sometimes it is explosive, and they try to take everyone's colors away, and draw in others books. Others are more subtle. They offer to 'help' you. A little scribble here, a few lines there. Before you know it, you are sitting back as they fill in your book for you.

I have had dealings with both of the latter, and sent them both packing. It ok to guide those that wish to be guided, and show them where you think the right colors should go. But it is not ok to try to force this upon others. When someone (or a group  of someones) do not follow your version of how things should be, there is two options. One, adapt. Any good roleplayer can do this. Two, move on. It is not your job to correct others. If it is very far off from what everyone else is doing, then a polite suggestion OOC in a /tell is the way, not trying to override a roleplay with your own.

(ps, I am one that ignores the lines at times, then holds my picture up for everyone to see.)

[Phinehas]

Lets equate this to a bunch of children given coloring books and a box of crayons. There are those that try to color as many pictures as possible, without worrying about if it looks right, or staying in the lines. When the book is full, they go home, or get a new one. Then there are those that follow every line, and make sure the sky is always blue, the grass is always green, and everything in between is right. They sometimes even lay out the crayons they will be using next to the book in the order they will be using them. Then there are those that purposefully ignore the lines. Not to mess up the picture, but to give it their own touch. All of these are the good kids. The ones that sit together and play. They will look at the way the others colored, and sometimes think it something they could use in their own pictures.

But then there are the bad kids. Sure, some of them may color great pictures, but they also expect everyone else’s pictures to be just as good, and match their own exactly. If everyone does not make the same drawing, with the same colors in the same places, these kids will throw a tantrum. Sometimes it is explosive, and they try to take everyone's colors away, and draw in others books. Others are more subtle. They offer to 'help' you. A little scribble here, a few lines there. Before you know it, you are sitting back as they fill in your book for you.

I have had dealings with both of the latter, and sent them both packing. It ok to guide those that wish to be guided, and show them where you think the right colors should go. But it is not ok to try to force this upon others. When someone (or a group  of someones) do not follow your version of how things should be, there is two options. One, adapt. Any good roleplayer can do this. Two, move on. It is not your job to correct others. If it is very far off from what everyone else is doing, then a polite suggestion OOC in a /tell is the way, not trying to override a roleplay with your own.

(ps, I am one that ignores the lines at times, then holds my picture up for everyone to see.)

You're a warped human being Under. I suppose that's why everyone loves you.

[Peacer]

farren i still didn't know... not even janeous' plan...

verrliit, that's a little harsh... i was rp'ing and rp'ing my character... maybe Peacer didn't get as involved as he could have been though

[Sohai]

Srry to barge in like this -intimidated by huuuge post counts -

But RP is a lot like a class of drama.
There is a setting , no definitive outcome and characters adapt as they go along.
The dead of any impro act or RP is the fact that the one u are playing with doesnt play along with the previous sentence.
I was playing the other day , avenging some relative, a bystander started asking as to why we were killing that specific mob and i dugg up a story on how it killed a loved one and so on...my team member then said: O dont mind him he always brings up that story he just drank to much.
What would have killed the RP is me stating that he was lieing and that i was dead sober.
1st and most important rule in RP/impro ( as long as it doesnt contradict a previous statement) is that u play along no mather what. There isnt such thing as THIS is the story.
If u think thats the case u should  RP only with people who have read and agree with ur script. It really works both ways here. And I dont want to tick of people but , i realise this is sorta cursing but what the hell, this is the internet.
Golden rule, dont get to attached to a certain character. U can have affection for a character. U can have conversations over msn it can even be a real thrill at times
But its not real. No mather how genuine it feels or looks , its nothing but a mear illusion a simulation of love and affection.

A classic example, very often the cute girl is a guy who likes the attention he gets as a female toon, not to mention teh fact it gives him a real kick playing a woman/girl. I mean many of us have tried korean or chinese MMORPG where ur forced to play a female if u want to be a mage. Many eventually just started playing a girl just because it doesnt break the ingame experience and also because women are taken care of online.

Conclusion: Its a game if i say i love u in game personal feelings are mixed in it. But that doesnt mean i really love u. Its a game, a story, an escape from real life. Its not real 

[Siofra]

There are some interesting comments in this thread. Although i am still new to the game and still finding my (and my characters) way around, I have met a huge range of people with unique in game styles. The range from the fully immersive RP (great fun for me, but in small doses) to the frivolous time waster. However, the thing that I have always been very conscious of is that behind all the PCs in this game, there is a real person with real feelings who may (or may not) invest a lot of themselves in thier character. This sometimes makes it very hard to carry out some RP that you would like to do as you *know* that it will affect that person or persons in the real world in a negative way (hey, it has even happened to me, and I try to keep the IC as far from OOC as possible, but i am still very attched to my character).

I love unplanned RP, and despise being told how I should be playing my character, but I also welcome useful comments if I am doing something baltantly OOC when I should not be. But, I will play my character how *I* want to. Do not tell me OOC that I shuold be doing something else. *I* know what I want to be doing. Also using stuff told OOC when IC annoys me, but I have also been guilty of that myself ('twas accidental, but done none the less). Just understand that I am sensitive to the REAL people behind the PCs and will try and do nothing to deliberately upset or emotionally manipulate them.

[Verrliit]

farren i still didn't know... not even janeous' plan...

verrliit, that's a little harsh... i was rp'ing and rp'ing my character... maybe Peacer didn't get as involved as he could have been though

Verrliit goes back to look at her post, and kicks herself...

Peacer, I am sorry.

I seem to have done exactly the sort of thing I was telling others not to do.

I should have explained that you were protected from emotional hurt by an OOC warning.

Since I did not, you appeared insensitive and unfeeling.

You are no such thing.


Please forgive my omission.


~Verrliit~

[Peacer]

farren i still didn't know... not even janeous' plan...

verrliit, that's a little harsh... i was rp'ing and rp'ing my character... maybe Peacer didn't get as involved as he could have been though

Verrliit goes back to look at her post, and kicks herself...

Peacer, I am sorry.

I seem to have done exactly the sort of thing I was telling others not to do.

I should have explained that you were protected from emotional hurt by an OOC warning.

Since I did not, you appeared insensitive and unfeeling.

You are no such thing.


Please forgive my omission.


~Verrliit~

* Peacer pets verrliit where she kicked herself

apoligy accepted...

@lolitra: please give me a couple of examples... no real name needed... more destroyer says: [omg u suck at rp... car's WERE invented in the year of 1k] or something... if i got it right what this thread is about