Author Topic: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness  (Read 5510 times)

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2006, 02:25:04 am »
Evil characters should do evil things, not say they are evil. the idea of a council sounds good. Maybe each council member could get to choose what kind of demon they want to be and not just stick to the ones left to assign, after all, if they are all equal in authority and they should have their own history by the time they join in (having RPed and grown for a while) they should know what they would be bringing to the guild. maybe it'd be best if all "empty" council chairs remained nameless until someone comes to claim them.

Now, maybe this idea isn't far from the Culmi Navarre and they can join forces. i find them both interesting as i have been trying to build my own organization. if it helps in any way, i realized i was making the mistake of drawing the organization i wanted to create as an extension of my character and that ended up being too limiting for other characters to join in and find their place in it. so, i like the idea of a council (although i find the name a bit Justice Leagueish/god-RP alert) where different evil characters with their own agenda can join forces and compromise a bit in order to prevail. A sound evil character takes time and effort to build and it's a shame to see their potential wasted due to players not willing to compromise. For what matters, I am. Feel free to PM me if you need help.

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2006, 02:28:58 am »
Why demons? Demons have no place in PS. Not only are they not specifically mentioned, they don't work with the system of deities that have been put in PS. They don't work in Planeshift. Come up with something more original.

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2006, 02:29:24 am »
Alright. After reading through your story all the way this time, it's time for more peanuting. Firstly - it really makes no sense. Are you guys trying to get revenge? Fill the world with hate? Why? Your character doesn't have any hatred, it was just "given" to him, and he doesn't really have anything to hate. And I can see it now - you walking around touching everyone and making them into your slave. This isn't far from the vampires at all, they just walked around biting people. Please rethink this, it's going to be seriously annoying. Good roleplay involves more thinking, a history that describes more than "spreading evil for the hell of it," maybe more of a council of the guild, than the whole guild being a council. The way it sounds right now is like you're the head of all evil or something, being a "darkness council" you might want to rethink that. Some guilds have a head council of about 4-5 people, and the rest are members that work their way up through certain ranks. I don't see that here, I only see you randomly picking the people you "turn evil" for whatever rank's available.

Edit: Also, in no way is this like Culmi. The leader of that guild built up hatred for life, and wanted to gather together some people and try to get rid of all the annoyance of people walking around with a smile (or something). This guild simply had the leader magically "turn evil" and turn everyone else evil...far from the same.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2006, 02:31:51 am by Suno_Regin »

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2006, 02:33:26 am »
Well I see your point on that =^.^= ... though I never said there was only involved fighting. Alot of RP is going to go into this. I have been known to make alot of twists in my RPs. Also sorry if I didn't explain myself very clear earelier .. I have problems with writeing somthing then rereading it then editing and all that stuff trying to make my point clear .. no way to be mean. But yes im a bit stubborn ... But i was just trying to make valid points on my part like the whole demon thing ... hehe when I was coming up with the ranks i didn't actaully think of it the way you did, since you thoult of it that way ... yaa sure i thoult about others will to .. but i just wanted to mention why in this case it would work. And i never whent into being personal about it and saying somone was  bad RPer unlike some people who can't restrain themselves. But ya I take all ideas into consideration .. though if somone sees somthing wrong I am going to correct them so they get a better idea of what im thinking ... I hope im making myself as clear as possible... cause at this point im about to say screw it i tryed and everyone treats me like dirt. I mean seems like my last idea of an all fenki guild was a good one ... so I do have more experience then you may think.
To the post that was posted while i was posting lol ... Ya i was thinking about leaving them nameless and forgot to mention that, but ya that as well. Also and there not really demons im going to take that out .. cause the words just have the meaning of demon describing evil lol.

I also explained in a post i wouldn't go around touching people .. the story is just an example nothing more. took mearley 10 minutes to write. Also the chest ... well it was more like a curse. The story really has nothing to do with the main idea of the guild and always can be rethoult

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2006, 02:40:34 am »
All fenki guild? Are you Herah?

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2006, 02:48:42 am »
Well I see your point on that =^.^= ... though I never said there was only involved fighting. Alot of RP is going to go into this. I have been known to make alot of twists in my RPs. Also sorry if I didn't explain myself very clear earelier .. I have problems with writeing somthing then rereading it then editing and all that stuff trying to make my point clear .. no way to be mean.
That's just funny. You can't be like that when explaining a guild idea. You have to be meticulous. You can't just post half-explained concepts and then get upset at people who didn't understand your point of view simply because you couldn't be bothered posting your ideas concisely in the first place.
But yes im a bit stubborn ... But i was just trying to make valid points on my part like the whole demon thing ... hehe when I was coming up with the ranks i didn't actaully think of it the way you did, since you thoult of it that way ... yaa sure i thoult about others will to .. but i just wanted to mention why in this case it would work. And i never whent into being personal about it and saying somone was  bad RPer unlike some people who can't restrain themselves.

I was restraining myself. I can do much, much worse. Frankly, what did you expect? You post a half-baked idea and show no desire to pay any attention(at the time) to any of the advice being proferred. You seem to think demons are part of the setting, and evidently you think, and your spelling is atrocious. I admit that the last one is subjective because English may not be your first language, but I get the feeling you're just not trying. Frankly, I have trouble picturing you doing any true, elegant roleplaying. I hope to be proven wrong.
But ya I take all ideas into consideration .. though if somone sees somthing wrong I am going to correct them so they get a better idea of what im thinking ... I hope im making myself as clear as possible... cause at this point im about to say screw it i tryed and everyone treats me like dirt. I mean seems like my last idea of an all fenki guild was a good one ... so I do have more experience then you may think.
Coming up with a half-decent idea for a guild does not qualify as experience. Implementation is the key here. Plus, and this is going to sound strange coming from me, you need to work on your social skills. The way you say things does not portray a particularly open or friendly individual. You appear to care about that.
To the post that was posted while i was posting lol ... Ya i was thinking about leaving them nameless and forgot to mention that, but ya that as well. Also and there not really demons im going to take that out .. cause the words just have the meaning of demon describing evil lol.
Well, good.  :thumbup:

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2006, 02:52:32 am »
First I must point you all towards your lack of information. On PS's original concept we, the players, could not have characters bend on doing evil alone. Mainly because they stated people would be busy attempting to stop an invasion of creeps and producing materials to aid on that quest. Oh wait. That was ignored a long time ago. Ha ha ha. How distractful of me.

Still, I think it foolish to create guilds with the purpose of being evil. It doesn't fit PS's setting (where things should have a normal, realistic course instead of sudden, demonic, mutant, dragon, vampire path.) I am really sorry that people continue applying alignments to PS. It is really sad to see people falling prey to the unoriginal task of choosing an alignment, instead of creating fluid, realistic characters, that may be considered evil as they interact with others who may consider their traits less moral.

This might sound strange from someone who owns a "Dark Empire." However, unlike other guilds, the Dark Empire is only out there to establish itself through whatever means it has. It doesn't do good, it doesn't do evil. It does what it has to do for itself. Why name it dark? Why name France, France? Most of us don't know it nowadays, and it really doesn't matter as it is just a name.

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I am quite aware that even most GMs are not aware of how the RP setting should be enhanced. Probably it's because this is an alpha test, and we are tester before being roleplayers. However, we should try going the right way, even while having such a lack of direction from the GMs and the PS team. There are specks of information we can cling to, and we can always use logic.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2006, 02:56:31 am by Sangwa »
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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2006, 03:05:12 am »
I can't even talk no more .. just forget the idea .... I never realized I sounded like such a jerk on the internet  :'(. I really don't try to be and im not. I was just debating on what i think. It's like saying i can't have my own oppinion. Ya sure i didn't except what some thoult but that is my oppinion. Trying to make me change what i think is just down right rude and then taking it on a personal level is just down right wrong ... I spell fine I just don't type fine ... its called typos. Also thanks for mentioning how my social skills are horrble ... I am sure you would be happy to know i talk to very few people in RL due to my past. Im done here.

And no im noy Herah, im Winnry.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2006, 03:07:18 am by tssthorn »

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2006, 03:11:44 am »
Oh please, there's no need for this to get personal. Nothing I have said was meant to reflect on you as a person. Merely on your attitude towards and understanding of this game and its RP context. There's no need to run off and pout.

I sincerely apologize, in front of all who read this post, for any comments of mine that may have been taken personally. Nothing I EVER say in these forums is meant to reflect on RL, this is a game, and all my comments remain within the context of the game.

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2006, 03:16:56 am »
Phin you bully.

Tsshorn. This was an "IDEA," right? So, you can improve it. You can still have a pack of cruel villains, but find something more realistic and original. This is also my opinion. And what Phin said was his opinion. Do you know that you can simply discard them and do as you like? I wouldn't advise you on doing that, but it is still an option... If it makes you any more relieved.
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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2006, 03:27:05 am »
*sighs* I don't know it really is just me. I mean I have been told by many I was a good RPer so I know i am and playing the game as long as i have ...well I am sure I have plenty of experience. I won't drop the idea I will improve on it ... but I hope you all realize im trying as best as i can. I am just trying to add to the excitment of the game. Trying to make an evil guild is extremly hard to make perfect ... as everyone wants it to be. I have taken your ideas into consideration and will think about them ... my last posts was just trying to explain on things that you all took wrong ... demons in no way mean demons ... again evil is what i was going for. That's all I was trying to say. I hate to have to keep mentioning it as some of you just don't get it cause it keeps being mentioned. Also when giving ideas try being polite when giving them. That's one thng though is people reading text is hard to really see what they are saying or what there attitude is and it's takin the wrong way. Never judge a some one by there writeing as words do not have emotions.

Alright ... I have an idea ... ok all the ranks and the story leave that out of the origenal idea. This idea is pretty much very flexible. But I would like to keep the whole council type of thing can change the ammount of true council members though. Ranks are cahngable to the type of evil charecter you want to be. Second The story WILL be cahnged as i stated in my origenal post ... I even said it was an example. Third I would also like to keep the whole alt thing so you can RP an Evil charecter with out hurting your rep. Fourth the true council has to be evil ... it;s a must while the rest of them will have leeway ... you know how minyans are ... there not really as evil as the rest. Do we all understand now? Hope so.

 Hope that makes it more clear on what i am really looking for.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2006, 03:38:02 am by tssthorn »

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2006, 03:35:47 am »
demons in no way mean demons
Then I would suggest you stop referring to them until you've thought up a new name and description for what you're looking for. Also as a note, you don't need them to be mystical beings at all. In real life lots of people are cruel and "evil" without having some quasi-magical reason behind it.
Never judge a some one by there writeing as words do not have emotions.
And I suggest you take your own advice as well. You are the one who got all emotional. I do not, as I'm sure people imagine, write my posts in a fury of righteous wrath. They are written, for the most part, in a calm, collected state of mind. What I said about you as a roleplayer was not an insult judged to make you feel bad, it was an observation based on what I have seen of you so far.

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2006, 03:40:32 am »
Reread top post ... Hehe and ya everyone lsiten to what i say .... not what I do =^.^=. Also the demons thing was just ... ahh anyway just trying to say it's not important .. there that's as clear as i can make it. I already said i was going to change it lol. Cause everyone seems to have different interpretation of things.

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2006, 03:42:16 am »
Ok, so let us know when you've got a bit more concrete of an idea. We'll go from there with our advice/suggestions/insults.  ;)

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Re: [IDEA] The Council of Darkness
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2006, 03:57:01 am »
Naa I am ot going to do it ... cause for some reason now I feel what ever i come up with will be crap. There will always be somthing wrong with it. Wether it be the ranks or not being origenal .. I don't know. If i come up with somthing and think it's great i will be sure never to psot it again.