POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!

[zanzibar]

I'm sympathetic with the student but I'm not saying that he didn't do anything wrong.

[Datruth]

Has anyone been seeing any coverage of this event on the news?

I haven't....

Anyone surprised lol?

[Kelod]

Get over it.  Go vote.  Make a difference.  Nobody who is partaking in civil disobedience should expect to be treated like a child.  If he hadn't been tased you wouldn't be complaining and things that you now complain about would still happen just as easily... so again: Get over it.

[Kalika]

I agree with zanz, if you don't consider this police brutality, your eyes are basically shut.

That discussion in class probably took place, on one side with the people who knew the situation and were sympathetic towards the kid.

And on the other side, people who didn't know the whole situation and sided with the police.

It's happend like that even on this thread, but once people see how one sided this issue is, the discussion tilts towards the cops and their motives.

~~Datruth

There is some truth in this, it could be considered police vrutality, but you also dont recognize the police's side on this.

you werent there. therefore you CANT know the whole truth. there are always two sides to every story. There is no way to claim absolute knowledge on who is right or wrong, too many factors need to be taken into consideration. You yourself, in fact, are acting as if blindfolded.

i sitll lvoe you though 

[zanzibar]

Get over it.  Go vote.  Make a difference.  Nobody who is partaking in civil disobedience should expect to be treated like a child.  If he hadn't been tased you wouldn't be complaining and things that you now complain about would still happen just as easily... so again: Get over it.

So you're saying that... if he hadn't been tased... then we wouldn't be upset that he was tased... and therefore we should get over it...

You deserve an award of some kind.




@Kalika:  You cannot deny that they tasered him after he was already down, that they had the manpower to prevent him from doing any harm, and they tasered him repeatedly anyway.  You also can't deny that they told him to get up right after he was tasered, and they then tasered him for not following instructions.

Well, maybe you can deny it, but I cannot.

[Akaye]

What? I am confused as to how voting affects this situation. I thought this discussion was about a boy who got tasered by the police and people's different views on it. This has nothing to do with the government directly.

Get over it? Just don't think about it, let the government take care of it .... just vote! All will be well. Yaaaaaaa right! 

[Datruth]

Get over it.  Go vote.  Make a difference.  Nobody who is partaking in civil disobedience should expect to be treated like a child.  If he hadn't been tased you wouldn't be complaining and things that you now complain about would still happen just as easily... so again: Get over it.

So you're saying that... if he hadn't been tased... then we wouldn't be upset that he was tased... and therefore we should get over it...

You deserve an award of some kind.




@Kalika:  You cannot deny that they tasered him after he was already down, that they had the manpower to prevent him from doing any harm, and they tasered him repeatedly anyway.  You also can't deny that they told him to get up right after he was tasered, and they then tasered him for not following instructions.

Well, maybe you can deny it, but I cannot.

Those were exactly the words i was about to use   

Thanks Zanzibar, for saving me the trouble...

I was thinking.... oh geez, not this again lol.

As for voting, i did vote this election.

~~Datruth

[Kelod]

Are you upset that he was tased or upset for why he was tased? or upset that he has a Muslim name? 

Have you ever had to comply with a law enforcement official?  Would you be stupid enough not to follow their commands?  Those commands are designed to keep EVERYONE safe not just the officers and victims.  Ever been tased? I have... not the worst thing that could happen to you... not nearly as bad as pepper spray IMO.

So yea, I say get over it.

[Kalika]

@Kalika:  You cannot deny that they tasered him after he was already down, that they had the manpower to prevent him from doing any harm, and they tasered him repeatedly anyway.  You also can't deny that they told him to get up right after he was tasered, and they then tasered him for not following instructions.

Well, maybe you can deny it, but I cannot.

did i ever deny it? did i ever "side" with the police? no.  i have not ONCE even mentioned my opinion on the matter. what i KNOW is that the kid was possibly profilied for being non-white and refusing to cooperate. i think the kid was an idiot for standing up to them but that doesnt mean i think he got what he deserved. In fact i think the police were horribly horribly wrong. But was i there? did i see what happened? did i actually WITNESS it? no, therefore i cannot claim a complete knowledge of the matter. i admit to my blindfolds.

if youve actually read any of my other posts you would realize that im very liberal and a total hippie. i am agaisnt the use of tazers unless absolutely needed, and i am a pacifist. I have no clue where you would get that i would even side with the police.

also---look at Gandhi he was almost beaten to death multiple times for refusing to cooperate with law enforcement. no the kid didnt deserve to get tazered but maybe he sohuldve thought twice about standing up. im all for it, dont get me wrong...but its like playing with a big strange dog, you never know if theyll bite

[Akaye]

Are you upset that he was tased or upset for why he was tased? or upset that he has a Muslim name? 

Have you ever had to comply with a law enforcement official?  Would you be stupid enough not to follow their commands?  Those commands are designed to keep EVERYONE safe not just the officers and victims.  Ever been tased? I have... not the worst thing that could happen to you... not nearly as bad as pepper spray IMO.

So yea, I say get over it.

I am sorry but that still doesn't explain what voting has to do with it.

[Kalika]

i think Kelod meant voting as in, youre not happy with something? go vote and make a difference 

[Kelod]

Is there a student government at UCLA?  Yea, one would assume... and I think they could pull some weight in decision making... or is that too far fetched?

[Datruth]

Are you upset that he was tased or upset for why he was tased? or upset that he has a Muslim name? 

Have you ever had to comply with a law enforcement official?  Would you be stupid enough not to follow their commands?  Those commands are designed to keep EVERYONE safe not just the officers and victims.  Ever been tased? I have... not the worst thing that could happen to you... not nearly as bad as pepper spray IMO.

So yea, I say get over it.

..... He was complying with LAw inforcement.....

He was on his way out, when they grabbed his shoulder, he shoved it off, and thats when the second police officer came and tazed him.

YEa, that's really going to keep me safer on campus.

And Tazer's have different LEvels of power, You can get tazed full blast or tazed for like two seconds on low power.

REgardless, this kid got a FULL taze, for not leaving quickly enough, even though he was leaving and got stopped.

~~Datruth

Sounds like you don't know the facts of the case, i suggest you study them before you make anymore mistakes.

[Kelod]

Where did I try to state facts?  I suggest you stop taking my opinion as a personal attack.. before you stop keeping my interest and lose my respect...

PS.  Show me when Captain Kirk said to set em to Full Stun.

[Akaye]

Is there a student government at UCLA?  Yea, one would assume... and I think they could pull some weight in decision making... or is that too far fetched?

Wow! Could you be any more of a jerk? I ask a question and you treat me simple minded because I seek more knowledge about your point of view and what you are meaning. I think your misreading my posts tone, and someone needs to have his cranky pills.