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Re: POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!
« Reply #150 on: November 23, 2006, 08:00:37 am »
Everyone needs to chill out before this thread is locked off. This is a topic to get easily passionate about, but being passionate about something doesn't mean you can step on other people. Thread warning.
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« Reply #151 on: November 23, 2006, 08:01:08 am »
Are you upset that he was tased or upset for why he was tased? or upset that he has a Muslim name? 

Have you ever had to comply with a law enforcement official?  Would you be stupid enough not to follow their commands?  Those commands are designed to keep EVERYONE safe not just the officers and victims.  Ever been tased? I have... not the worst thing that could happen to you... not nearly as bad as pepper spray IMO.

So yea, I say get over it.

Where did I try to state facts?  I suggest you stop taking my opinion as a personal attack.. before you stop keeping my interest and lose my respect...

You were talkinging about listening to law enforcement. How LISTENING to those commands will keep everyone safe.

I Replied telling you he did listen, and tazing him didn't keep me safer.

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I still don't get why this isn't on t.v

They show the dumbest things sometimes lol, but they refuse to actually have a nice, in depth Report on this.
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Re: POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!
« Reply #152 on: November 23, 2006, 08:01:41 am »
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Wow! Could you be any more of a jerk? I ask a question and you treat me simple minded because I seek more knowledge about your point of view and what you are meaning. I think your misreading my posts tone, and someone needs to have his cranky pills.

I think you are misreading my tone...

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Are you upset that he was tased or upset for why he was tased? or upset that he has a Muslim name? 

Have you ever had to comply with a law enforcement official?  Would you be stupid enough not to follow their commands?  Those commands are designed to keep EVERYONE safe not just the officers and victims.  Ever been tased? I have... not the worst thing that could happen to you... not nearly as bad as pepper spray IMO.

So yea, I say get over it.

Where did I try to state facts?  I suggest you stop taking my opinion as a personal attack.. before you stop keeping my interest and lose my respect...

You were talkinging about listening to law enforcement. How LISTENING to those commands will keep everyone safe.

I Replied telling you he did listen, and tazing him didn't keep me safer.

~~Datruth

I never said LISTEN, I said COMPLY.  Facts? Please...

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« Last Edit: November 23, 2006, 08:03:54 am by Karyuu »

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Re: POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!
« Reply #153 on: November 23, 2006, 08:03:56 am »
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Wow! Could you be any more of a jerk? I ask a question and you treat me simple minded because I seek more knowledge about your point of view and what you are meaning. I think your misreading my posts tone, and someone needs to have his cranky pills.

I think you are misreading my tone...


Oh and could i have it on record here, that you feel getting a full taze is less painfull then pepper spray?  :P

I think you were joking, but i need to know if that was your official stance.

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Re: POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!
« Reply #154 on: November 23, 2006, 08:04:40 am »
Everyone needs to chill out before this thread is locked off. This is a topic to get easily passionate about, but being passionate about something doesn't mean you can step on other people. Thread warning.


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« Reply #155 on: November 23, 2006, 08:06:29 am »
Everyone needs to chill out before this thread is locked off. This is a topic to get easily passionate about, but being passionate about something doesn't mean you can step on other people. Thread warning.


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Did i say something bad?


Anyways, Kalika, Did that class agree on anything, when you had that discussion.

Do you remember if any points were agreed upon by everyone.

Possibly the kid being overly tazered?

Oh and <3 Kalika  :D , I just noticed your first reply, thanks for the <3

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« Reply #156 on: November 23, 2006, 08:08:44 am »
Yes, I have been both tased and sprayed with pepper spray... pepper spray was by far worse.  A taser has you lose control of your muscles for the time in which it is on.  Pepper spray can burn your skin and takes at least 15 min to get off.  So yea, I would rather be tased than sprayed.

Some good info on Less than Lethal weapons... http://www.iejs.com/TechnologyandCrime/Law_Enforcement_Technology/less_than_lethal_weapons.htm
« Last Edit: November 23, 2006, 08:17:01 am by Kelod »

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« Reply #157 on: November 23, 2006, 08:10:43 am »
 :devil: Lets test!

* Akaye sprays Datruth with pepper spray

* Akaye tasers Datruth

So which hurt more? I bet my broken toe hurts the most.  :-\
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Re: POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!
« Reply #158 on: November 23, 2006, 08:19:53 am »
Everyone needs to chill out before this thread is locked off. This is a topic to get easily passionate about, but being passionate about something doesn't mean you can step on other people. Thread warning.


* Kalika points up


Did i say something bad?


Anyways, Kalika, Did that class agree on anything, when you had that discussion.

Do you remember if any points were agreed upon by everyone.

Possibly the kid being overly tazered?

Oh and <3 Kalika  :D , I just noticed your first reply, thanks for the <3

~~Datruth

i said it becasue it seemed to me that kelod had made a remark that wasnt agreed with (or even understood) and you all were still discussing it. there was nothing bad aht i saw but im sensitive and i did feel that people were being stepped on. so i thought that i might repeat KAryuu jsaut in case

Our class was upset with what happened, yes. But we also happened to have an ex-police officer in our class who described the police procedure. Our teacher refused to take a stance becase he would prefer to be the devil's advocate therefore i got to hear a lot of stuff about what the police could possibly be thinking. Doesnt mean i agree, but you seriously have to take into account that profiling does happen quite often, and not every police officer is mentally equipped to deal with that. Also its not jsut the police, its the securty guards that have to be taken into question, the student themself that has to be taken into question, the students around etc....

There were no points "officially" agreed on by the class. We had a big unit on civil disobediance and were more willing to side with the victim though we did take into account the other stuff that was mentioned.
One Persian student happened to mention that this scared him, becase it could happen to him anywhere.
Basically we agreed that the Student in question assumed he was being profilied by the security guards. we agreed that it was procedure (i dont know the details) for them to contact the police regarding the situation. We agreed that the police were not justified in tazering the student. We agreed that the student should have taken into account what could possibly happen BEFORE the police tazered him and he refused to cooperate with them and the security guards. We also discussed the possible reasons for him not cooperating, and the consequences of what could happen to the police.

When i watched the video in class i desperately wanted to bash the police heads into the floor.

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« Reply #159 on: November 23, 2006, 08:22:11 am »
:devil: Lets test!

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* Akaye tasers Datruth

So which hurt more? I bet my broken toe hurts the most.  :-\

I'd have to say the one that could kill you hurts more  ;)

Just a random guess though lol ;D
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« Reply #160 on: November 23, 2006, 08:24:36 am »
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I'd have to say the one that could kill you hurts more  ;)

Just a random guess though lol ;D

Come on now... death doesn't imply pain nor does pain imply death.
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Re: POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!
« Reply #161 on: November 23, 2006, 08:28:01 am »
Pain is good because it lets you know your alive.
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« Reply #162 on: November 23, 2006, 08:29:34 am »
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I'd have to say the one that could kill you hurts more  ;)

Just a random guess though lol ;D

Come on now... death doesn't imply pain nor does pain imply death.

Lol,  ;D :lol:, I agree, There is absolutely no pain when you are dead.
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Re: POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!
« Reply #163 on: November 23, 2006, 08:39:44 am »
Are you upset that he was tased or upset for why he was tased? or upset that he has a Muslim name? 

Have you ever had to comply with a law enforcement official?  Would you be stupid enough not to follow their commands?  Those commands are designed to keep EVERYONE safe not just the officers and victims.  Ever been tased? I have... not the worst thing that could happen to you... not nearly as bad as pepper spray IMO.

So yea, I say get over it.

He was complying.  Even then, non-compliance does not give the police the right to pull out a taser.  Being tased by a police taser on a high setting is not the same as what most people think it is.
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« Reply #164 on: November 23, 2006, 08:43:58 am »
He was complying.  Even then, non-compliance does not give the police the right to pull out a taser.  Being tased by a police taser on a high setting is not the same as what most people think it is.

but he wasnt before he got tazered.

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