POLICE brutality at UCLA, STUN a student who is HANDCUFFED!!!

[Akaye]

but even still it was an act of stupidy and look what happend. im sure he is very smart to be an aspiring doctor.. just common sense might be lacking.

True people can lack common sense on certian issues and perhaps he didn't exercises his when sticking out his tongue. Still He didn't deserve what the "punishment" for his foolish act became. He is a kid who was goofing around. That happens. In this situation I think the police officer was in the wrong and guilty of having abused his power of authority.  All kids rebel, it is in their DNA. There has to be some tolerance on the police officers behalf, after all they are trained to do so. Children and teens also have to learn from their mistakes but they have to make the mistakes in order to learn the lessons. In this case that is exactly what happened only this officer choose to treat this individual poorly and taught a lesson they shouldn't have been taught. To hate authority and not respect it. Mixing that with lack of common sense would be a bad thing.

[zanzibar]

there are two kinds of smart. book smart and street smart, [common sense].

I don't agree with that statement even slightly.  There are many different kinds of intelligence - there are even many different kinds of common sense.

[Datruth]

just cuz hes in a university dont make him intellegent. there are two kinds of smart. book smart and street smart, [common sense]. you are right i have done some foolish things in my time but even still it was an act of stupidy and look what happend. im sure he is very smart to be an aspiring doctor.. just common sense might be lacking.

That's not true.

I'm not Saying all smart people go to universities.

But i'm saying this, Anyone who is going to UCLA, Isn't stupid. It's not easy to get there, and it's definetly not easy to become a doctor.

So no i disagree, i feel, if you are at UCLA you cannot be considered stupid.

And theres no such thing as Street smart lol, it's best to use the word "common Sense" which is what he might lack a little in.

~~Datruth

[LARAGORN]

Street smart vs book smart

You are both right, I have met some very nieve doctors. Yes they are inteligent enough to graduate med school, but in many cases (not all) thats all they know. They have developed a tunnel vision, and anything outside of medicine is forign to them and they come off as unintelligent. I have also met some incredibly inteligent doctors that have amazed me with thier wide thourough (sp) knowledge. This can be applied to any proffesion, it is the person not the proffesion. I have met so called uneducated people, that are very inteligent and have a great understanding of many things. People do not need a piece of paper (diploma) in order to be inteligent, a diploma just shows they have spent the time and effort to learn that perticular field.

I have a sister in-law whom I call the most inteligent stoopid person I know. She has 5 masters degrees in varius fields and is to this day studying for her 6th. However she connot understand freeway signs, she cannot read a map, she cannot have an inteligent conversation on any current affairs, unless it is directly related to one of her areas of study. She is IMHO the poster child for book smart.

Street smart to me is having the understanding of the unwritten laws of the gerneral public, and having a good understanding of its social structure and being able to use that knowledge in a practical way. Wiki's definition is "Street Smart, is a word meaning having shrewd resourcefulness needed to survive in an urban environment." I dont think this can just be generalized as common sence, street smart is much more that your typical common sence. Each persons enviroment and social standing dictates what is common sence, what is common sence for me is much different than it is for an English(UK) person living in a ghetto, or a Tibetan monk.

Relating this back to the original topic; The officer that used the taser has a history of agresivnes and violence, but he ussualy gets away with it. I can, with almost certanty say that he does this much more than is ever reported. In his case he knows what actions he ussualy takes to get the results he wants, this to him is common sence. It is a sick and twisted view, but i believe it is still his views of common sence.

[Valbrandr]

Not that it has anything to do with the original topic, but yes there is a such thing as street smart.  And it is pretty much what Laragorn describes it as.  It is more than just common sense.  I have some good friends who didnt even finish high school.. but you would be surprised as to what they do know.  In actuality it is tough to say someone is stupid in general.. because eveyone knows something .

[Datruth]

LARAGORN, that was an awesome post actually.

And i wish your sister luck bro, 6 masters degrees...... woah...


Anyways, How do i test my street smarts, as you call it?

~~Datruth

[zanzibar]

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=kinds+of+intelligence&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

[Coneitic]

LARAGORN, that was an awesome post actually.

And i wish your sister luck bro, 6 masters degrees...... woah...


Anyways, How do i test my street smarts, as you call it?

~~Datruth

im not sure... but i know if you stick your tounge out at an officer while riding in a car with weed....  you fail the test. 

[LARAGORN]

* LARAGORN looks up and laughs in agreement

LARAGORN, that was an awesome post actually.

And i wish your sister luck bro, 6 masters degrees...... woah...


Anyways, How do i test my street smarts, as you call it?

~~Datruth

That isnt an easy question to answer, simply because everyones personalities are different. I guess If you wanted to test your street smarts, ( I am not sugesting anyone try this) you would go to an area that isnt the friendlyest or safest and see if you can fit in. now if you have street smarts you would already know what areas to stay away from, because there is no way you would fit in. Simply by talking to an individual from different social circles, would tell you right away. If you can comunicate at the same level, using the same vocabulary and using the same analogies, and they dont think you are a goof; then I would say you have a degree of street smarts.

The same can be said of the business world, 'If you can walk the walk and talk the talk' so to speak. I have a good friend, Glen, and he is a self made millionair. He has no formal education, other than grade twelve. His IQ according to some, put him in the lower average class of inteligence. He was at the right place at the right time and bought 1000 acres in Belise, and in less than 48 hours his 64 thousand dollar investment was turned into over 1 million, by only selling 2 half acre lots. That would be enough for some, just sell off one here and there and live in luxury, but not for Glen. He then bought a trucking company that was on the verge of bankruptcy, it came with 8 tractors and 10 trailers for under 100 thousand. He now has 48 tractors and 80 trailers, and is the sole transporter (citywide) for a departent of one of the largest nickle companies in the world. He has purchased 4 warehouses to store the product he buys from the company, then sells it back when they need it (with a healthy markup). His contracts add up to over 500 million a year. Not bad for an uneducated fella who is just turning 39, Glen is my poster child for street smart.

So the test depends on the individual, thier background and their personality. I am very fortunate, as i feel just as at home in a board meeting, a classroom, or sitting shootin the sh*t with the boys from the group that run everything on the streets (if ya know what i mean).

[Datruth]

That's an awseome Story Laragorn.

And your Friend is really smart, as you mentioned, maybe not IQ wise and all, but definetly street smart.

Good to keep in mind.

~~Datruth

[Kalika]

wow isnt it nice to see how some people agree with the same people, and disagree with the same people and then there becomes a "rift" and people tart accusing each other of doing something bad and the other side is accusing some one else of doing something bad?


you never escape it.

not unless both sides are willing to lay down their pride and accept the other viewpoint as equally valid even if they do not agree.

[zanzibar]

wow isnt it nice to see how some people agree with the same people, and disagree with the same people and then there becomes a "rift" and people tart accusing each other of doing something bad and the other side is accusing some one else of doing something bad?


you never escape it.

not unless both sides are willing to lay down their pride and accept the other viewpoint as equally valid even if they do not agree.

I can agree to disagree with someone and yet maintain that I see their viewpoint as invalid.

[Kalika]

wow isnt it nice to see how some people agree with the same people, and disagree with the same people and then there becomes a "rift" and people tart accusing each other of doing something bad and the other side is accusing some one else of doing something bad?


you never escape it.

not unless both sides are willing to lay down their pride and accept the other viewpoint as equally valid even if they do not agree.

I can agree to disagree with someone and yet maintain that I see their viewpoint as invalid.

"yet maintain that I see their viewpoint as invalid."

then what makes you feel so darn valid about your point? do you walk into a church and say "hello i believe in Buddha, you dont therefore your wrong. oh! you disagree with me? how uncivilized you fools. anywho im going to burn every passage in your bible that i do not agree with or i will debate it mercilessly until you agree that im right."

oh, you dont?

then why do it here?

[zanzibar]

Kalika, are you saying that my behaviour on this forum is the same as burning Bibles and insulting people while in their own places of worship?  I hope you realize that's a load of BS.  All I said in the other thread was that we should be open to contrasting religious beliefs, and then I stated my own interpretation of the meaning of Christmas.  Further, this is an internet forum and an international community.  People come here to share and discuss opinions, and if you can't handle that, maybe it's you who doesn't belong.

[Kalika]

Kalika, are you saying that my behaviour on this forum is the same as burning Bibles and insulting people while in their own places of worship?  I hope you realize that's a load of BS.  All I said in the other thread was that we should be open to contrasting religious beliefs, and then I stated my own interpretation of the meaning of Christmas.  Further, this is an internet forum and an international community.  People come here to share and discuss opinions, and if you can't handle that, maybe it's you who doesn't belong.

uhhh whattttt???

that post had nothing to do with anything you were talkning about. it jsut popped into my head when i was thinking of people who cant jsut leave things be. sorry if i offended you that much  to make you say "People come here to share and discuss opinions, and if you can't handle that, maybe it's you who doesn't belong." which really makes me relize you havent paid any single moment of attention to any of my posts, because if you did, you would realize im all about ACCEPTANCE and LOVE, not oh i hate this or oo i ahte that blah blah blah. and yes this is an internet forum and an international community and i REALLY dont see why every one has to pick at each others posts, because seriously, it makes ME feel sad for the people whos every word and thought is completely analyzed and struck down by some person who think that they are the almighty of the forum.  i hadnt even directed any of my comments tha ti know of as a personal attack against you yet i feel as if this will be taken personally

and i dont even know what your rant about Chrismtmas was cause i didnt even read it , and if i did i sure dont remember it. anywho bringing up the bible nad buddha was jsut an EXAMPLE that happened to pop into my head while typing. thats all it was.

smoke a bowl, have a drink., take a walk...wahtever. but dont pick this apart too because i honestly and REALLY sick adn tired of itl