NPC using an expletive?

[lordraleigh]

Bug off... Pike off... It is very normal on most RPG games I played... Anyway. Janner... not sure if Christians would approve for their children a game with horny and red skinned creatures called Diaboli 

Another one I would like to ask... I think it is also exaggerated... as it is a word that may have a common meaning in RP-sense:

How can one roleplay a bastard son if the word bastard is censored?

[Nurahk]

Bug off... Pike off... It is very normal on most RPG games I played... Anyway. Janner... not sure if Christians would approve for their children a game with horny and red skinned creatures called Diaboli 

Another one I would like to ask... I think it is also exaggerated... as it is a word that may have a common meaning in RP-sense:

How can one roleplay a bastard son if the word bastard is censored?

I don't think anybody wants to roleplay a bugger though.  Seperot being the obvious exception <.<

[eldoth_terevan]

If we assume that NPCs in game using "bad words" promotes the use of "bad words". Then having PCs in game with names based on alcoholic drinks promotes alcoholism and drinking. Both are probably questionable ideas, at best, considering the children playing the game.

[bilbous]

Even if the connection between drink named characters and alcoholism is a little strained, certainly the number of players portraying drunks or who carry around beer steins in public IS more direct.

[Shakilai]

Taking into consideration PlaneShift's genre, it's impossible to get rid of every "questionable" item. I don't believe the game would get a G-rating anyway, and parental guidance seems to be encouraged with young children as far as I have seen. I myself seriously don't understand how drinking in a medieval fantasy game would be more of an issue than murdering other people, but whatever makes your boat float.

[drah]

Well... the thing is... it's the context that counts!!!

A "lil' bugger"... doesn't literally mean a little sodomite... it can, in one context refer to a pest, an annoyance... and has been commonly used as such in the English language for a long, long time.

When you see episodes of The Simpsons using phrases such as "p*ssed off" and "b*stard".. and consider it's a family show... bugger seems a minor issue.

If PS was aimed at 5-year-olds... fair enough... but it's not... and almost every kid who is old enough to get to grips with PS and understand how to converse with an NPC will have probably used words much more offensive by themselves!!

Bugger, damn, etc... these are innocuous words...

...and ultimately... if you're offended by the way bugger is used in PS... it just means you are inferring a context that wasn't implied... shame on you and your filthy evil mind!!!

[zanzibar]

I have noticed that a certain NPC will under a certain circumstance refer to the person talking to them as a "bugger".
I am aware that in many forms of English this word is considered an expletive. The meaning of the word in many contexts is "sodomy", "sodomize", or "sodomite". I thought it would be best to let some GM's or developers that might read this know.

I've never in my life heard that word interpretted that way. :|

[bilbous]

Welcome to the world Zan, it certainly is used in that regard. It wouldn't be too hard just to change the "u" to an "e", if it is just a generalized insult. That said I am not particularly offended by it.

[miadon]

I've seen far worse things mentioned in the old testament, than the word "bugger" being used in game.

[Phinehas]

I've actually never heard the word bugger used in that way, either. That said, I find all the mockery in this thread excessive and tasteless.

[zanzibar]

I've actually never heard the word bugger used in that way, either. That said, I find all the mockery in this thread excessive and tasteless.

Excessive, tasteless, unwelcomed, and unfortunately typical of those committing it.

[Rayken]

This is sheer nit-pickery.  Bugger is a PG word and is therefore suitable in a PG game.  IIRC, PlaneShift is intended to be PG.

What bothers me is that in certain dialogues with Harnquist, he uses a smiley.  This IMO encourages the use of them and OOC talk in general.

[bilbous]

I agree that it is a relatively inoffensive word but I also agree that some of the posts were out of line, Eublepharis' in particular. And what did he mean "gets in position", sounds obscene to me. The term does have unfortunate connotations and would be easily changed. Is it not better to err on the side of angels?

[Coneitic]

i feel bad for the devs and gm's. they make a game we can have fun with and not cost us a penny. and people have to nitpick* nice word* everything they disagree with. Just let it go, its a word, words only have as much power as you give them. Stop crying!!!!!!! enjoy what is put out there for us... especially free stuff. if its a problem then dont let your kid play the game. and i believe kids under 16 shouldnt be online to begin with, because when i first got the internet about 8 years ago i did two things. Porn and Music. i was a kid i didnt know. the internet is not a place for kids anyways.... sorry im rambling on off the topic. just deal with it people. if i made this game and someone complained about what i put in it iw ould tell them "then dont play it".

by the way janner... hope all is well with your youngin.

[Karyuu]

Bilbous: Angels shouldn't be playing a game where you can kill, steal, get drunk, etc.