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jonandtice

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Am I being a bad gamer?
« on: December 10, 2006, 10:05:41 pm »
First of all, let me say that I think the way progression points are gained right now does not make sense to me at all.  I don't see why one should have to kill an infinite amount of npc's to become a good miner or whatever else (I know mining gives some xp but it's a joke really).  I imagine this will change as the game matures but for now I am dealing with the following problem:
There are hordes of people in the arena so that it is hard to get an easy gladiator or a good rouge anymore.  The solution I have found to this is to go to a certain spot where there are several of a certain monster who will automatically attack me again and again without me even having to initiate the attack.  I may or may not get up from my computer, go to sleep, do homework, mow the lawn, go to school, etc. while I am being repeatedly attacked by monsters.  The point is that, while I am gaining less xp from these monsters, my character is there longer because I do not have to make him interact with his opponents.  My concern about doing this is that some of you may think I am destroying the RP of the game.  I really don't know if I am or not that's why I am asking your opinions.
If someone comes that wants to have those monsters I think it is very clear that I don't deserve all of them and I feel they are more than welcome to stand closer to the monster than I am.  At least one of them will still get through to me most of the time.  This is different from those very rude players who, while in the arena, although one is standing almost on top of the npc, will insist on trying to attack it before I get my first blow in.  There is a certain individual who I am extremely fed up with because of this and this is one of the main reasons I have taken the approach of leaving my character by some monsters and leaving the client open while I go about my real life.
As I said it is easy for me to RP this but it may get in the way of other players if they wanted to, for example, group with me or, fear that I may get angry if they start killing some of the monsters that have been attacking me.  Am I a bad gamer for playing this way?

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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2006, 10:08:06 pm »
its against the rules of the game and a bannable offence just to stand there all day and get autoattacked.
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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2006, 10:14:36 pm »
OK, that is a simple enough reply and I guess the rule makes sense as I have probably been abusing, and I am sorry.  But, I think the cause of the problem should be addressed.  I will stop doing it, but only when I am not physically at my computer.

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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2006, 10:25:38 pm »
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The solution I have found to this is to go to a certain spot where there are several of a certain monster who will automatically attack me again and again without me even having to initiate the attack.  I may or may not get up from my computer, go to sleep, do homework, mow the lawn, go to school, etc. while I am being repeatedly attacked by monsters.

Do be aware that if you leave your character in "autoattack" mode while you are AFK for an extended period of time (over 10 minutes), you may come back to find yourself banned from the game. The progression system isn't the best, and we realize this and will be working to make changes.
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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 07:02:13 am »
Bad player doesn't really describe you...

I think stupid or moronic describes it better since you admitted in public to be breaking the game rules and yet asks if that was a problem.  ;D


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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 07:43:07 am »
at least this person asked the question before going until being banned.

you need to read the player policy and rules clearly

good luck

the game will mature but taking advantage of it in the mean time is not an acceptable course :D

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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 05:38:08 pm »
I'm impressed by this guy's honesty. He found a way to cheat the system (for all he knows it was the perfect crime) but he decided to expose it rather than continue on doing his nasty business...

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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 07:49:19 pm »
If he did not expose it and continued, he would have faced me some day soon.
I seem to have a special skill for finding people who try to Bot in any way.
And i am not so nice to them, when i caught them.
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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2006, 03:21:58 pm »
If he did not expose it and continued, he would have faced me some day soon.
I seem to have a special skill for finding people who try to Bot in any way.
And i am not so nice to them, when i caught them.

When you catch them.  :P

Anyway, my point is; he didn't know it was against the rules, he just thought it was an unfair way to get experience and wanted to report it. Nothing sinister or stupid there. This guy is to be respected, damnit! :P


Oh, but one teensie thing - 'Botting' is using a third-party program to control your character for you (i.e. making your character into a 'bot'). The programs (the more sophisticated ones, anyway) can sometimes handle things such as healing when you get low on health, running away if too many mobs attack at once or even selling loot to a vendor, as well as other things like mining or fishing.

It's very different from just standing in a mob's spawn point and repeatedly aggroing them.

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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2006, 03:26:40 pm »
Aye, but Planeshifts botting policy covers anything that allows you to do anything while not in front of the computer. So don't do it!
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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2006, 03:43:46 pm »
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21538.0

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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2006, 09:06:54 pm »
It's unclear how long jonandtice has been playing. Gaining progression points is a slow process at first but it does force you to learn a lot more about ps. I don't think you will be happy unless you learn to develop some patience and look for something more than just earning progression points.

Yes, the arena is frequently crowded, but if you go out exploring you will find plenty of places to earn progression points, and not just in small amounts. I have not been on yet where if I really wanted to I couldn't find somewhere that was not busy to earn progression points. I've also met interesting people/characters as I've explored.

But if you don't have the patience to earn progression points in real time then you probably don't have the patience to get any of the rp aspects.



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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2006, 09:57:23 pm »
When you catch them.  :P

They will. Find a character killing the same NPC over and over. Next time the NPC spawns, move it away few meters (yards). No reaction from the character, teleport him/her to the Death Realm. Still no reaction, ban for 30 days.

That's what I would do. Be glad that I'm not a GM :P
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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 10:59:24 pm »
Well, most GMs do act like that as far as I know.
You're making a good example then ;)
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Re: Am I being a bad gamer?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2006, 02:55:39 pm »
When you catch them.  :P

They will. Find a character killing the same NPC over and over. Next time the NPC spawns, move it away few meters (yards). No reaction from the character, teleport him/her to the Death Realm. Still no reaction, ban for 30 days.

That's what I would do. Be glad that I'm not a GM :P

That seems a bit extremem. Suppose I had a phone call (the phone is downstairs and the computer's upstairs)... and I just happened to go AFK mid-fight.

Or hell, suppose I spontaneously start spasming and bleeding from my eyes and ears and have to go to a hospital? And while I'm recovering, I want to play a bit of PS, but find that I've been banned for 30 days...
Can YOU live with the shame? :P