Youtube Named Times Person of the Year 2006

[zanzibar]

Yeah well That is all very fine and good but let me know where I can get copies of this bands albums. I saw nothing on that site that would let me. I suppose I could listen to them if they didn't use crappy flash which is not well supported in linux.

Just go to one of their shows and ask them in person.

I am not certain but I don't think they have had one in more than 20 years. They broke up in the eighties and haven't had an album since. They are one of those bands that are not commercial enough for the cartel to re-issue their albums.  I might be able to buy an album off ebay, I see some listed but I don't have a stereo, much less a turntable so it would not do me much good.

Just goes to show that the cartel is limiting what culture I have access to. To my way of thinking the record company which holds the rights to this material has forfeited them by not making it continuously available. Legally, of course, that is not so.

Are they all dead?

Youtube epitomizes mankind: pure, unadulterated, uncensored chaos. There's so much crap to drudge through to find something decent it completely defeats the purpose. It's like the freaky colonel guy said: It hampers evolution, not enhance it. How can we evolve to a higher form of life when a fat kid dancing around his room with a lightsabre is what we find entertaining?

Youtube is extremely censored.  Are you kidding me?

[Idoru]

@Datruth, I have to say that it is You, and Me, and anyone who has made content available via the internet that has won the award.

YouTube is just used as the most visible publicly accessible  example of what the public can do if people are given the means. Does this mean that any blog or website is less valid than a vlog on YouTube?

NO!

That would equate to saying that any film/movie is more valid than any book or Radio Show.

Just because something involves the use of video has no impact on its, ummmm, impact.

[Kalika]

  ahhaha i like that Idoru

[Datruth]

ThomPhoenix is correct. Time magazine only cited YouTube... along with other sites like Facebook, MySpace and Wikipedia. So it wasn't YouTube who won, it really was "You".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6187113.stm so says the BBC too.

I also think that YouTube wasn't anything revolutionary. No more than wikipedia, and I'd say less than wikipedia. Certainly it was evolution using the increasing speed available to users of the web and mainly a good business idea.

Wiki.. is more important than youtube....

Show me one person who would buy it for 1.6 billion.

Game, set, match.

No investor would feel that Wiki is better or more revolutionary than Youtube.

You don't need to buy wikipedia... Google is already integrating it with its searches freely... why would it need to buy it, just for the name? Just because someone doesn't run out and buy something doesn't mean that it's not more important than something else. Plus buying something which has entirely GPL content is dumb...

Game, set, match.

I'd even go as far as saying that YouTube used the concept of Wikipedia (or any other similar system which came earlier) as the foundation of its website. Instead of allowing people to create and upload text information, they did it with videos. They certainly didn't invent anything new, only put it in a convenient form. Convenience is everything, which is why it became so popular. It's evolution, not revolution.

Ohh... it' evolution... not revolution?

So the car... was an evolution on the wheel and later on the wagon, and later on the horse driven wagon?

I'm sorry.. but the Car was Revolutional.
It changed everyone's lives.

Why can't it be both? An evolution of an object, or idea, that becomes revolutional, WHY can't youtube be concidered revolutional.
The darn thing is worth 1.6 billion.
And it has added about 80 dollars to google stock, 80 BUCKS!! That's more than most companies stocks are worth.

Your spewing out NONSENSE xordan.

Your first trying to say, WIKIPEDIA, is the FRAMEWORK of youtube....... how in the world are they alike?
Then you are saying Wiki is doing a better job than youtube is, at what it does...
YOUTUBE is completely different than wiki... in a trillion ways... i don't even see how their frameworks connect.

Can someone who agrees with xordan, please explain it to me?
Am i the only one who thinks WIKI is a completely different product than youtube, and that Youtube is 100 times the produce wikipedia is?
Should we go off which site has more hits? If that's the case, i'm pretty sure youtube would come out winning?

And you know why google, WILL NOT buy WIikipedia, it's not because of search.....
It's becuase it has no growth value, and it really isn't that interesting.

~~Datruth

[neko kyouran]

Why can't it be both? An evolution of an object, or idea, that becomes revolutional, WHY can't youtube be concidered revolutional.
The darn thing is worth 1.6 billion.
And it has added about 80 dollars to google stock, 80 BUCKS!! That's more than most companies stocks are worth.

Just becuase some one is willing to pat 5 dollars for a pen cap, does not mean that pen cap is actually worth 5 dollars. 

Am i the only one who thinks WIKI is a completely different product than youtube, and that Youtube is 100 times the produce wikipedia is?

Wiki and youtube have the same idea behind them. That is to host a convenient way to share data with a massive amount of people freely and openly.  Wiki shares data in the form of text.  YouTube shares data in the form of videos. The underlying principle of the two is the same.

Again, the invention itself does not bring the change, a revolution, in things are done.  It's the concept, the idea, behind the invention that does.  The invention itself nearly facilitates the idea.  There are many other video hosting websites out there.  But becuase Youtube is generally excepted as the best, most convenient, way to share videos, it is the most popular used.

[Datruth]

Why can't it be both? An evolution of an object, or idea, that becomes revolutional, WHY can't youtube be concidered revolutional.
The darn thing is worth 1.6 billion.
And it has added about 80 dollars to google stock, 80 BUCKS!! That's more than most companies stocks are worth.

Just becuase some one is willing to pat 5 dollars for a pen cap, does not mean that pen cap is actually worth 5 dollars. 

Am i the only one who thinks WIKI is a completely different product than youtube, and that Youtube is 100 times the produce wikipedia is?

Wiki and youtube have the same idea behind them. That is to host a convenient way to share data with a massive amount of people freely and openly.  Wiki shares data in the form of text.  YouTube shares data in the form of videos. The underlying principle of the two is the same.

Again, the invention itself does not bring the change, a revolution, in things are done.  It's the concept, the idea, behind the invention that does.  The invention itself nearly facilitates the idea.  There are many other video hosting websites out there.  But becuase Youtube is generally excepted as the best, most convenient, way to share videos, it is the most popular used.

Using your same analogy I underlined, that would mean the Internet would be included, as well as google, yahoo, and a MILLION other websites and items.

THAT is the most GENERAL definition of youtube i've ever heard.

And that's not it's aim.

It's Aim is to create a community that can express itself thorugh vlogs and can choose themselves, what they like, and what they like to see. All done in the form of videos.

That's a WAY better definiton of youtube.

But hey, i understand why you defined Youtube so Generally, because you needed to link it up to youtube.

Which you can't do.

You can't... and your attempt at it, links up the whole internet..

It's like saying your related to EVERYTHING in this world... because.. you live on it... therefore.. everything is just an evolution of everything else.

Nothing is genuienly new... because.. we thought it up already.....it's VERY VERY general counterpart.

Again... the wheel and the car.

~~Datruth

[zanzibar]

The internet was around long before Youtube.

Case closed.

[neko kyouran]

You have your opinoin, and I'll have mine.  It seems we have both made our points and things would just go round and round in circles never getting anywhere in the end so I'll agree to disagree with you. 

(@datruth)

[zanzibar]

There can only be one!  Fight!

[Datruth]

The internet was around long before Youtube.

Case closed.

What... are you talking about?

Youtube's function is not the same as the internet, yes if we use Neko's Very very general look at it... then we get it.
But then zanzibar, me and you are identical, Genetically anyways, about 99% alike, if we use the same general route neko took.

In truth though, we are ideologically opposite in alot of ways.

You have your opinoin, and I'll have mine.  It seems we have both made our points and things would just go round and round in circles never getting anywhere in the end so I'll agree to disagree with you. 

(@datruth)

I agree, there is no right and wrong at this point, it's all up to the person.
I have no place telling you to examine things the way i do, if you feel you want to examine it generally you have the right.

Maybe i'm just not looking at it right.
You have become the more honorable man by agreeing to disagree first, for that i thank you

There can only be one!  Fight!

I found that kinda funny, but i really don't want readers to go through spam as they are reading the thread.

AS for youtube and the thread:

They have revolutionized the internet, and the way we look at videos.
They have created a community that works together...
and.... is worth 1.6 BILLION dollars!!

GO youtube!!!

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I want to mention one thing though:
If someone asked me to pick the times person of the year, i would pick Iran's leader Ahmadinejad.

The definition of times person of the year was something like:

the person who most affected news this year, for better or for worse.

IF we use that definition, i would say definetely Ahmadinejad get's the title.

~~Datruth

[zanzibar]

Obviously, not all differences are the same!

[Datruth]

Obviously, not all differences are the same!

I didn't get that, and read it like 10 times.. i mean i understand it.. but what does it mean?

If it's just a joke... ignore my post lol

~~Datruth

[emeraldfool]

I want to mention one thing though:
If someone asked me to pick the times person of the year, i would pick Iran's leader Ahmadinejad.

The definition of times person of the year was something like:

the person who most affected news this year, for better or for worse.

IF we use that definition, i would say definetely Ahmadinejad get's the title.

~~Datruth

The only reason I remember that name is because the way the Americans say it it sounds like "I'm-a-dinner-jacket"...

Anyway, maybe it's because I don't live in the internet-obsessed world of America (at least, more-so than us), but outside of America I barely hear YouTube talked about AT ALL. Let alone it being the furthering of human society.

Personally, I find FOX News to be hilarious. I was watching RTENews (Radio Teilifis Eireann - Irish TV) who were very professionally discussing the Prostitute Murderer case, and then I turned to FOX, and they were discussing a new YouTube video about these big-boobed woman being chased by silicon breast implants 









EDIT: Here's a link that proves my point about YouTube. It's not funny, it's not nice, and it's not beneficial to society.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0UFIA4Wh7E

and the response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB8ZqorPQdY&NR


This crap is all over that site. It's either flame-wars, videos of babies falling over or biased political satire.