Hydlaa Law enforcement

[Narure]

Posters are placed up all over the city:

- Hydlaa Law Enforcement -

We are looking to recruit strong citizens to be trained to become keepers of the peace within the walls of the Hydlaa.

Good public relation skills are required.

We are solely focused on keeping crime non existent in the city

Hydlaa Law Enforcement was founded by Stoyka, a simple hard working Yilan, an aspiring politician who is looking for a leadership position in hydlaa. The guilds beginings started when he was approached by an Enkidukai with a pirate hat tipped over his face a sly grin peeking underneath. After a long conversation they come to an agreement, the Enkidukai uses the tip of his dagger to pick off his current guild badge.

The guild is open to all who aspire to keep the peace and all areas of expertise are welcomed.

[Caarrie]

Hydlaa Law Enforcement it did not work in the past why do you think it can work now?

[Narure]

huh name already used. Well we'll have to see how it goes wont we, its just taking its first tentitive steps.

[Caarrie]

[that was a link for you to read and learn from]

[Farren Kutter]

Times change Besides that, he can do as he wishes when making a guild.

[Parallo]

Go for it! We need this to work. I wish you the best of luck... Assuming you don't get in the Empire's way.

[Tarel]

I also like to refer to the following guild from the past:

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=24425.0

This guild was created in the past and try to claim the position of Octarch ingame.
Atm there is no way for a player to become or be an Octarch in PS.

The have been a lot of discussion about it in the past already.

This is an official post about the Octarch-position:

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=22511.0

The Octarch position is major, and needs not only player support, but dev team support, especially from the Settings department - which is simply not going to happen right now, for many of the reasons already mentioned among others.

[sstoykaa]

no no no he wrote it wrong, not an octarch. i understand thats impossible, it states right on the site its heredity. Anyways there is nothing stopping the guild from not working. short of mistakes made by me or narure.  as for the octarch thing, i wasnt running for an octarch postion. i will however run for a leadership position in hydlaa. i believe following the rules of hte government and what the history is, it will work.

also it does say if i a vegismi is removed from the external circle for whatever reasons, a higher up citizen may be elected. =)

how else do we get higher up, cant be simply by training

[Karyuu]

I would stay away from trying to roleplay government positions at the moment. You don't have enough setting material to do it correctly, and no way to enforce anything at all outside of RP (which not everyone may follow). It's just messy... :} Besides, players don't have the power to find a Vegisimi suddenly removed from the circle. Right now, consider them all there and everything's just fine.

[Hilon]

Aspiring to the position of Octarch is one thing, achieving it is another.  As Tarel pointed out, it is not possible for any of our characters to actually 'be' Octarch at this time.  In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with role-playing an ambitious politician who may be confident that he will be Octarch one day just as long as you as a player realize that it is a pipe dream.  It will be a goal that is (for the foreseeable future) just out of the grasp of your character.  The same thing still applies if your character lowered his sights a bit and aspired to get a Vigesimi position.

As for the guild itself ... yes, it has been tried before, but so have many other things.  If RP'ed well, it can open up oppurtunites for others who choose to accept and go along with it.  A listing of ranks would be nice to see.

The only other comment I have is a minor one.  I am not sure if there are any pirate hats in Yliakum.   But, I also don't know something better to suggest either.  There is not a lot of information on headgear outside of helms yet.  Maybe someone else will have a better suggestion.

Pre-post edit due to sstoykaa posting while I was typing:  Good to see that the Octarch part is understood.    Most of my post here still applies.  Hope it helps and good luck with the guild.

...And now fast fingers Karyuu beat me too.    @Karyuu:  What do you think about my thought of trying, but never able to achieve a government position of some sort?

[sstoykaa]

everythings not fine!

they arent doing their job, i can see they arent implimented yet, thats fine, but are you really going to stop the rp community from forming their own government in the lack of one? i can see if the government that was thought up was in play, but its not, and i assume before its finally implemented there will be a big wipe and eveything will be lost. untill then would it really be so bad to see what players you hadn the game to, do with it? see what kinda of government they can establish?

and for the last time, i dont want to be a vegismi, or an octarch, i want to play a politician, if i do well and can make it far into the game government thats fine, but now i just want to play a politicion in a world that has no government as of now.


*edit* this was before hilons post

[Karyuu]

@Karyuu:  What do you think about my thought of trying, but never able to achieve a government position of some sort?[/i]

Playing an aspiring politician may be fun :] As long as it's not taken too seriously and you don't go around making "Hydlaa Polls," for example. It's playing the part of someone who is in an official position of power that's difficult - first because there's no way to enforce rules, second because you don't actually know what official rules to enforce with Yliakum's setting, and third because a lot of people will wonder "Why you?" and disagree with the grab for power.

Sstoykaa, you cannot say in any way that the government officials aren't doing their job. When you roleplay, you roleplay as them there. All the Hydlaa Guards have someplace to report to. They are hired by someone, paid by someone, and work for someone who is actually around through the eyes of your character. It is just bad form to come in as regular players and attempt to create your own form of government when the world already has one - you are in direct conflict with the settings as we know them so far.

[sstoykaa]

we dont know the rules the devs will implement, but we do know the rules that the people want/need. i am in no way tryign to force my ideas on people, my leadership. but if they vote for me, they elect me, then they want what i do. so you cant be a regular player and attempt to create your own government. if your a super player can you? and what if my attempt is not start my own government but help the one supposedly implemented?


*edit* and this is far off in the future, right now this thread is about the guild, not aobut my plans, those are not even completely finished

[Karyuu]

But do you know what is going to be implemented? Even I don't :] So you set up an elaborate system and create a lot of RP stories that affect a lot of characters. Then the dev team implements something entirely different from what you had going, and all the stories suddenly break and fall apart.

Let's discuss people voting for your leadership - if you're not RPing that your position is something that was handed down to you but chosen by the people themselves, shouldn't you start like that, from the bottom up? So you'd need to set up a community vote instead of coming in saying that you already have people standing at your back ;} As for being a "super player," that is something that you have to prove before you attempt this.

[sstoykaa]

lol your crazy karyuu, and i mean that ina good way.

i am starting out from the bottom, i am going around individually and introducing myself, getting people to know me, my ideas tellingthem about it. you'd be supprised who says they give me their vote. i have no way declared myself a leader, nor said i have special powers. i have simply come to people and said." i have lived here for years, working adn saving up, i have stood by and listened to what the people have to say rather than speaking. the past year i have seen a growing of chaos int he streets, a city full of unspeakable acts and senseless killings. the time for change has come. i want to be the voice of the people, its time for someone to take lead" something like that. i tell people my ideas and they either say they go for it or they dont. what is so wrong with that, and now we start a protection force to keep the streets safe. i dont see how it affects the game so bad.