[guild] Osmanli akincilari (a new guil for the turks)-(turkler icin yeni dernek)

[orcoon]

Then cnange the name of game as englishshift!! this is a icon way game everyone can play this game as he or she wishes!!! something else!?

[Robinmagus]

Did you ever translate that first post? 

And yes, it is englishshift. Hate to dissappoint, but english is in fact considered an "international" language, and the most widely used by far, not turkish, or german, or italian, or whatever. Also, just pointing out, if you have that incrediblely powerful need to play with other turks, Knight online has a huge turkish player base.

[Karyuu]

Orcoon, we have a page on Policies on the PlaneShift website - I do believe it mentions that English needs to be used in public chat. The "Guilds" page also explains what PlaneShift guilds need to be like, so you should give these a read. There are some rules and guidelines we want all players to follow so that the game is consistent and the RP atmosphere is as unbroken as possible. If this doesn't fit your idea of a fun game and you don't feel like adjusting, you are by all means free to have a great time somewhere else.

Anyone who makes a thread in this forum section is opening him- or herself up for critiques, and there is a lot of (repeated) good information on why your idea may not be a widely-supported or applauded one. Remember that if your main goal is to help out people that don't normally speak English, you have other methods.

[Sangwa]

The Guilds page? Is it the thread in this forum or is it in the website?

[Jekkar]

The Vampire Hunterlords wish to know if you want to create an alliance.

[Karyuu]

The Guilds page? Is it the thread in this forum or is it in the website?

On the website :] It's been updated from the last bit of useless and outdated information to the really excellent stuff you and Aendar wrote.

Click!

[Nikodemus]

orcoon, maybe start from answering on the questions people gave you? you already get the image, you know what is expected from a guild, so start throwing propositions, but keep in mind that some things can't, because of RPing. Start developing IC structure of your guild. Also make sure you are understanding the RP aspect well.

Edited to remove comments on posts that were removed.  --Neko

[orcoon]

its done! of course our guild will have a purpose! ill translate it when we are done!!! what isthe problem here!? we are newbiees! i dont understand!? i know the meaning the guild and meaning of rping...just easy and relax...

[Janner]

  I have been searching through the players guide to find a plausible solution to this, hope this meats with approval.

[bit of background to work from]  
Only two races are native of the huge cavern: the Kran created by Talad and the Lemur created by Laanx. All other races are said to arrive from magical portals connected to other worlds.

We the guild................... are descended from the two native races, and as such we find it hard to speck the new races tung, so we have banded together to be able to talk freely amongst are self's, when a problem with the new tung arises.

 Word it how you like but I hope this is a compromise.

[glodin]

The native language of Yliakum is turkish ? Somehow I like that ...

[Nikodemus]

We the guild................... are descended from the two native races, and as such we find it hard to speck the new races tung, so we have banded together to be able to talk freely amongst are self's, when a problem with the new tung arises.

Only it passed few hundreds of years since the lest race arrived and everyone are able to freely communicate with each another. But yeah, sounds like a compromise, but stil causing IC problems while tryign to RP wit other people.

Glodin, The native Yliakum lanuage is Yliakean. It is whatever language it is, by which everyone may communicate. It could be Turkish, Spaish, whatever, but one condition is that everyone know it and we know it counts really only for english, at least more than any other.

[neko kyouran]

First off, I haven't really read this thread.  Only did a quick reading because a post that is now removed was reported, and I did the cleaning.  You'll have to excuse me if this isn't exactly what this is about what I'm thinking it's about.

Now then.  There is no work around for using a name of a guild that is in any real world language other than English.  There are a few guilds with names that are composed of words from a made up language, that was developed for the PS world.  As such, there is no compromise for a guild name that uses Turkish words. 

This goes for speaking in Turkish in the main open chat area as well.  It is not allowed and there is no compromise.  These rules are set in stone and not up for debate.  You are free to speak in any language you choose in the guild tab and other channels, but in the main, open channel, English is the only allowed language.  (Exceptions being, using a few words from made up languages designed specifically for PS here and there in your text to add flavor.)

What has been said in the quote below, is final and not up for compromises.

Orcoon, we have a page on Policies on the PlaneShift website - I do believe it mentions that English needs to be used in public chat. The "Guilds" page also explains what PlaneShift guilds need to be like, so you should give these a read. There are some rules and guidelines we want all players to follow so that the game is consistent and the RP atmosphere is as unbroken as possible. If this doesn't fit your idea of a fun game and you don't feel like adjusting, you are by all means free to have a great time somewhere else.

edit: For clarity.

[Janner]

Hear is some more snippets, this time from PlaneShift Policies.
"Read the Setting for official information about the world your character belongs to - and while your character can certainly come from another "plane" outside of it, don't do something outrageous like try to bring in "roleplay" guns. Keep with the medieval fantasy atmosphere as much as you can."
Define " and while your character can certainly come from another "plane" outside of it,"

I read that as not from Yliakum.

"The language in-game is English. You may use other languages in private messages like /tell, or in guild chat. This allows all the players in the game to interact with each other regardless of where they are from - and prevents the separation of the community into groups based on nationality."

sounds to me like it is OK to talk other than English in guilds.

LAST but not by far the least.

"You may not organize nor be part of any guilds or groups that are based on, or espouse, any racist, sexist, anti-religious, anti-ethnic, anti-gay or other hate-mongering philosophy."

NO mention hear of a country based guild.

So just so that we are all clear on the rule please show us it.

[neko kyouran]

"The language in-game is English. You may use other languages in private messages like /tell, or in guild chat. This allows all the players in the game to interact with each other regardless of where they are from - and prevents the separation of the community into groups based on nationality."

sounds to me like it is OK to talk other than English in guilds.

Right.  Which is why I said:

This goes for speaking in Turkish in the main open chat area as well.  It is not allowed and there is no compromise.  These rules are set in stone and not up for debate.  You are free to speak in any language you choose in the guild tab and other channels, but in the main, open channel, English is the only allowed language.  (Exceptions being, using a few words from made up languages designed specifically for PS here and there in your text to add flavor.)

Again, tells and private groups and the guild channel and whatnot is fine, but the public channels must be in English.

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NO mention hear of a country based guild.

My personal view is that forming a guild that has members that are all from the same country is fine.  ON THE CONDITION that the guild has an IC reason for existing.  The guild can't simply exist for OOC reasons, it needs an IC reason to be.

Why?  Because if my character walks up to your character that is in this guild and asks them why this guild exists, my character better be getting an IC reason back.  Not "because we all live in Turkey."  The game tries to limit as much OOC talk as possible. 

On the topic of only letting people of one nationality into the guild.  I find that to be fine as well.  BUT if I were to apply for membership in the guild, and were turned down, and then I ask why, the response I get better not be: "Because you aren't from Turkey."  There had better be an IC reason given, again, because the game is trying to limit the usage of OOC events and talk as much as possible.  I don't mind not being accepted into a guild because I'm not from that country, but there better be an IC explanation for it as well.

If people are not willing to follow these rules, they are free to not play PS.

EDIT:

and now that I have read all of this thread...

@orcoon

Please read: http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=22698.msg273551#msg273551

Your first post needs to be in English or have an appropriate translation.  Failure to do so is against forum policy and I will take appropriate action if you do not rectify this problem.

[lordraleigh]

Of course if you are not very fond of English, you can make the main language of your guild as Enkien  or  PEL PERRAKITHOR . Of course that will require some effort from the members inside it. Anyway there isn't a point on making a multiple language environment unless there is an embedded coded translator working on main chat channel that automatically translates everything to the language spoken by each player and to English for the devs and gms(Something that definitively isn't worth the effort).

Anyway, there are the Knights of Crystal for example, composed mostly of Germans, but they have an IC goal as well and only speak German in the guild chat.