Author Topic: [Guild] Imperial Guard  (Read 13654 times)

Nurahk

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2007, 05:12:57 am »
There are limits even to my evilness.  :devil: :devil:

I hope not! :P

Disclaimer: That's a joke, not saying the Empire is evil.

Added to which, I don't think spears will take too too long to implement.

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2007, 05:15:30 am »
Pikemen were the main defensive line of any medieval army, most guards used halberds or pikes as melee weapons. Of course having a shield like the greek hoplites would be important when arrows started raining down. As this military "guild" seems to be a defensive force mostly, it is logical that it should focus on such types of weapons for melee soldiers. Also here is a small reference for mercenaries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Mercenaries

Now away from seriousness...

I love it aswell. To bad we can't force the guards to all use spears ;)

Force the Imperial Guard to use spears? Are you serious?

It would be a huge step backwards to do so after all the technological advances that happened

And of course something that should not be forgotten: Darth Empire :P
* lordraleigh sees Nurahk with some elite stormtroopers closing his position and runs

Disclaimer: As previously stated this is a joke, as if we start seriously nitpicking most guilds will have at least one or two OOC references

Nurahk

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2007, 05:19:44 am »
I would never call the Imperial guard an army though. :P

And long live references to Warhammer :P

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2007, 05:34:58 am »
You gotta love the referance to Star Wars. Even if it has been used how many times?
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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2007, 01:29:51 am »
Swords and shields for our Imperial Guard. Hwnae's working on them already :P.
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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2007, 10:45:44 pm »
ooo
can I join?

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2007, 12:14:35 am »
Follow the link in the first post, Vedrit.

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2007, 10:44:12 am »
No offense but the name...  :whistling: I knew it sounded familiar...
As in here, here and although it's called Imperial watch here it still sounds like:
Archmage? Mages Council? Arcane University? And I thought PS's Dark Brotherhood was a TES rip-off.
Oh! and don't forget the French!

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2007, 11:01:54 am »
I'm slightly sorry to say it, Socius, because so many of your posts have been worth reading a couple times over, your last post was completely useless.

If it guards an Empire it is likely to be called the Imperial Guard.

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2007, 11:03:02 am »
No offense but the name...  :whistling: I knew it sounded familiar...
As in here, here and although it's called Imperial watch here it still sounds like:
Archmage? Mages Council? Arcane University? And I thought PS's Dark Brotherhood was a TES rip-off.
Oh! and don't forget the French!

I'm lucky nobody searched for "Black Sun" in Wikipedia(Disclaimer: The Link is just a joke. It has nothing to do with the organization)...

If we search for every single bit of Guild Name and such, we will always find OOC references, many of those the guild creators weren't even aware of. But the names "Imperial" and "Guard", among other adjectives of military and geopolitical meanings, are expected to have such references(not that this is bad for RPing, we're supposed to leave these things aside). That's why I avoided the "Republican Guard" as one of the ideas for naming the "Black Militia"( Black Guard or Black Army wouldn't work as well). But unless we invent neologisms, we can't escape completely from such things. So, in my sincere opinion, pointing and complaining about OOC refences is pointless for most cases except for things like "Blade Runners" or "The Matrix".
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Nurahk

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2007, 11:08:41 am »
Thank you, Raleigh, I've been searching hard and long for something we agree on ;)  I'm happy I've found something

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2007, 11:09:52 am »
I'm slightly sorry to say it, Socius, because so many of your posts have been worth reading a couple times over, your last post was completely useless.

If it guards an Empire it is likely to be called the Imperial Guard.
;) Read it again, I, again I, thought it was a rather funny post. And totally not assaulting (AS I remember correctly, I said something like no offense), if it did meant anything it would have been something like: "See, the Great minded of the world had the same thoughts. I should really go to humor class don't I? *sighs* I'll try to stop trying to be funny  :'(

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2007, 11:12:25 am »
It seems I've cause more offense than I meant to, Socius :)
I merely meant to state that, thought the "Imperial Guard" as a name has, perhaps, been overused.  You can surely see that the reason behind it's use is, for lack of words, quite innocent.  What else would you have us call it? :)

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2007, 11:21:59 am »
Just the way you wanted, again I thought it was funny like an ehmm.... >.> I hope this is and existing word <.< "reference joke"
Someone sais something then I reply "Hey that reminds me of..." or "Hmm sounds familiar"
 :innocent: I won't do it again, unless you're going to wear dragon armor
another name, well... I would be laughing if it were 'Warhearts carrying giant teeth picks all for the sake of protecting the empire and some other folks'  ;D
 :sweatdrop: I'll shut up now

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Re: [Guild] Imperial Guard
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2007, 11:46:12 am »
I have to disagree with Nurahk as to whether that (now far away) post of yours was actually useless.
Socius Rockus:
While the naming correlation might (and most likely should) question our originality as far as this field goes, I don't think this stands as a serious drawback on our part. In fact, I believe it makes the guild name all the more functional.

The former links you provided obviously don't hold much importance, seeing as names of those products are based on historical organisations to start with. The latter however is something I'd like to focus on a bit more. If we are to supply the wikipedia links, this, along with the French organisation you pointed out, should be given the most interest. Function of our Imperial Guard is very similar to that of those past organisations and I believe for this reason, lack of naming originality is by all means justified. The name was used many times throughout the course of human history and I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be used again. It's not as much a name tightly connected with a single force, but rather a title that stood as a functional description. Similar case can be found in the actual historical guilds. We can assume there were many gatherings holding a name of the "Carpenters Guild" and should a guild by that name appear in Yliakum, its lack of naming originality will be overcasted by the fact it's more of a functional title to start with.
Furthermore, the Imperial Guard name provides a quick explanation as to what's the function of the guild itself, which in my opinion should stand as the utmost priority in the "professional" guild naming. The function will be all the more obvious for those, who have some basic historical knowledge about those organisations, and I think that's always a nice plus.

I also like the correlation with the Japanese organisation, which works quite nicely with the "Warlord" rank we already had around for quite a while.


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