The Winch -- What are they thinking?

[drah]

k, many thanks for the prompt replies

[Gharan]

WOOHOOO!! My characters two weeks old and was just granted access to the Winch. 

My old char sadly had discarded a quest and couldn't ever get it back, I know there are still many stuck in that position and I hope that issue is resolved for you all.

The effort needed to gain access is worth it. 

[backeroo]

Lucky you. I'm trying for weeks now and getting more and more frustrated. I stuck in some Quests and don't know if they are broken, or if i just can't figure out the keyswords the NPC need to react. Yes in know, "Ask inGame", but how do i ask InCharacter if a Quest is broken, or what the heck the frelling keyword for this NPC is? And i finally i have no Clue if i ever will get the Winch Quest, cause i don't know if my Character suffers from the discussed Bug or not...
 

[bilbous]

What you do is say something like NPC asked me to get some things and now he acts like he doesn't know what I am talking about, it must be a language thing. Does anyone know how I can jog his memory? In other words rather vaguely describe your dilemma not so much as to give away anything to someone who does not know about the quest will have it spoiled but enough so that someone who has done it might be able to help. You will either get an in context cue that will help, an out of context answer by tell or a bunch of I dunno's. Many people are willing to help, but sometimes they are busy and if you have a poor reputation it might be more difficult.

[drah]

There are loads of players stuck in this predicament.. but it will be sorted out soon (tm).

Of course.. an easy solution is to create a new char.. you'll get into the Winch in no time with a new player.

And we are, at present, just testers... so nobody's really in a position to complain I guess (though I admit I feel like moaning about it!).

If you want access to the Winch and you've already got caught out by discarding BD quests... ya just gotta use another char and "suck it up" as they say.

[backeroo]

Ok, so i declare this not to be a complaint, but a test report.
Don't mind, i'll get over it.

[lordraleigh]

Areas like the Winch will be the exception to the rule I hope, or it will look like some kind of ghetto or socialist police state where most are locked in limited areas.

Hope that next new area to be inserted will be open and not restricted.

And it will come soon(tm), so be patient(tm)

[Karyuu]

Lordraleigh, why must you compare everything to some sort of social issue, whether it be Nazis, police states, 1984, etc? Expand your horizons. It will make your posts far more interesting.

[lordraleigh]

Lordraleigh, why must you compare everything to some sort of social issue, whether it be Nazis, police states, 1984, etc? Expand your horizons. It will make your posts far more interesting.

Why must you nitpick on my posts? I do not need nor want a "Self-aid Guide on Posting". It makes me wonder...

I just wouldn't see it as realistic to develop a ton of restricted areas first while letting the open areas to be developed later, it would surely make things difficult for keeping things IC if most available areas would need a quest/etc. to be accessed.

[Idoru]

I just wouldn't see it as realistic to develop a ton of restricted areas first while letting the open areas to be developed later, it would surely make things difficult for keeping things IC if most available areas would need a quest/etc. to be accessed.

I view it as the Devs just trying something new. They wanted to create a restricted access area so they did. Its just one more thing that is new and people still feel the need to complain about it.

And incase you think I have been swayed in my views, id like to point out that I also dont have access to the area.

[Karyuu]

LR: I don't consider it nitpicking - I am commenting on something that personally annoys me. I believe I have this freedom, whether or not you enjoy its results. If I see that all your posts are cut from the same mold, I have no desire to read them and I may not be the only one. This is something to keep in mind.

Can you please explain what "difficulty" restricted areas present to you IC, aside from technical problems that will be taken care of with future expansions?

[lordraleigh]

LR: I don't consider it nitpicking - I am commenting on something that personally annoys me. I believe I have this freedom, whether or not you enjoy its results. If I see that all your posts are cut from the same mold, I have no desire to read them and I may not be the only one. This is something to keep in mind.

You're not the only reader in this forum, and honestly I am not writing here to please everybody as I'm not a marketeer, and thus I won't modify some practices that I may or not decide to use on a more or less common basis just to please two or three people here because they see it as an annoyance while they aren't in other ones PoVs such things, and I believe I equally have the freedom of using them as well, although freedom might be unbalanced. And I would ask to refrain from making generalisations. My posts aren't from the same mold, some may come with that stuff, others won't and may have fully different compositions.

Can you please explain what "difficulty" restricted areas present to you IC, aside from technical problems that will be taken care of with future expansions?

I was saying that on a possibility, not on the current Winch, the possibility that restricted areas could become more common and large than "free" ones in a hypothetical future stage of PS development due to some reason. It would require some make-believe to fix through it IC, as in such supposition, characters mobility OOC would be pretty limited and making believe travels to not yet developed lands in game could become necessary to add into realism. And I think the goal is to not alienate the game engine from the roleplaying so that probably is a null possibility. But one that should be avoided from reaching into at all costs.

[Shangreloo]

Can you please explain what "difficulty" restricted areas present to you IC, aside from technical problems that will be taken care of with future expansions?

Access to limited areas is not a problem to me personally, and yes, I've been locked out due to discarded quests. However, should the current trend continue, I can envision a Yliakum future in which more experienced players will be locked away in restricted areas, leaving future new players out. Is this a future we really want to see in Yliakum?

[Fozzharn]

But don't forget ... the "future" we're talking about is most probably a future after a big wipe ... when anybody is a "new player" and has all the chances to do and to access what he/she wants to ...

[Shangreloo]

But don't forget ... the "future" we're talking about is most probably a future after a big wipe ... when anybody is a "new player" and has all the chances to do and to access what he/she wants to ...

Yes, but theoretically (and hopefully) there will always be an influx of newer players.