Crafting/Market Crash

[kimhari]

This isn't exactly a complaint but definitely something that is bothering me a lot.

I love the fact that crafting has been introduced, but the fact that ANYONE can make a top quality weapon in one day has completely destroyed the market (I made three in my first day of crafting). I think crafting is great, but in order to make higher level weapons surely one would need to have a high level of sword making? As I understand it a 300/300 squality Short Sword does roughly the same damage as an Iron Short Sword?!

Iron short swords used to sell for at the very least 80 to 100k, often a lot more. These crafted weapons have flooded the market and made it almost impossible for long standing merchants to make a living, which is why it bothers me personally They are being sold for as little as 5 or 6k on occasion.

Like I said, crafting is great, but I think the current work in/reward ratios need some serious adjustment to stabalise the market, which is one of the biggest features of Yliakum. Just my opinion.

Kimhari

[lordraleigh]

In other words: Someone who just passed his first day as an apprentice of a famous smith can make a master-crafted short sword.

[ThomPhoenix]

Well, recently I contacted someone from who I knew he could repair swords. He declined my offer for the repair and said I could better buy some new swords. I asked 3 more times on several occasions all with the same results. Is anyone even bothering to repair stuff these days?

[The Wandering Djinn]

As I understand it a 300/300 squality Short Sword does roughly the same damage as an Iron Short Sword?!

Iron short swords used to sell for at the very least 80 to 100k, often a lot more.

Note that now 250/250 Quality value is the current maximum for legal use of Player Crafted Weapons in all forms of Combat.

Note also, that since the Mini Wipe following the huge Items Duplication Bug Exploit... the maximum amount of money that can be carried in a characters Inventory is set at 150,000 Trias


These are the likely reasons why prices have down-shifted to the levels we have now.

[zanzibar]

What makes iron weapons so special?  Why should they be so expensive?  It's just iron.

[bilbous]

The problem with repairing weapons Thom is it can take so long unless it has changed. I have a few repair kits hanging around though so ask me if you see me.

[Valorius Rageway]

As I understand it a 300/300 squality Short Sword does roughly the same damage as an Iron Short Sword?!

Iron short swords used to sell for at the very least 80 to 100k, often a lot more.

Note that now 250/250 Quality value is the current maximum for legal use of Player Crafted Weapons in all forms of Combat.

Note also, that since the Mini Wipe following the huge Items Duplication Bug Exploit... the maximum amount of money that can be carried in a characters Inventory is set at 150,000 Trias


These are the likely reasons why prices have down-shifted to the levels we have now.

People are selling 300/300s left and right, and so far as i know 150k is NOT the max, there IS no max so far as i know.

Thom i have several people in my guild that repair wpns. Seek me out if you ever need one fixed.

Also, a 300/300 is NOT as strong as iron wrt slashing. Iron dags are slash 6, whereas 300/300 dags are approx slash 4. I do almost 100dmg more per attack with Iron vs 300's, and 100 more still with SW's. (200str, lvl 50 daggers)

I agree with first post of thread.

Lvl 1 crafter should max at 50/50
Lvl 2 75/75
lvl 3 100/100, etc, etc so on down the line.

This would make true mastercrafted weapons far, far more valuable.

[Gharan]

Yeah there's no max tria limit he must of meant what most people were left with after the wipe.

[Rongar Elani]

Hmm,

The tria cap did exist after the mini wipe, so I asked a GM about it, 2 days ago I believe, and he told me that it still exists.
But hey, even GMs are human, so he could have been wrong . Actually, I really hope so.

And about the new max Q for self crafted weapons... there was a reducing to 250/250 for all existing, self crafted weapons about a week ago, but one can make new weapons with 300/300 again, so 250/250 is at least not the max Q in general, and the ones I made haven't been reduced since then. That 250 really IS the currently max allowed Q for selfcrafted weapons, is news to me to be honest. Anyway, if so, the price for crafted weapons will fall once again, and through the basement, but the devs should know, what they are doing... 

[The Wandering Djinn]

Well.... I stand corrected:

I've been working hard at the Gold Mine since making my previous post in this thread... and I took my Trias on my character up to 151,820 -then I logged out for 5 minutes...

logging back in, I found that I still had 151,820 Trias in my characters inventory!

[Caarrie]

There is no tria cap of any type. And max quality on all weapons unless changed recently is still 300/300

[Gharan]

Yeah Caarrie they put it to 250/250 now. 

[Caarrie]

I just verified with a few people and in the last few days they have made 300 quality weapons so sorry gharan you are wrong

[Gharan]

I didn't state it was making them, all my 300 have went 250 and everyone else i've asked. I haven't made a weapon for a while so I wouldn't know about making them atm. 

[Allive]

i have to agree with kimhari here as you all know i have sold wepons in and got into it and hopefully a good name for myself always sealing cheaper than other of the profestion. i can make weapons and would like a higher price put on them i mean yeah ok i have been selling fairly low atm to try makeing some tria and continueing on the way i originaly planned alliva to go. but we really need a band of ppl to watch out for the econamy you see everyone either sells way to high makeing it very expensive to buy new things also hurting the econamy. but then you have the problem of ppl comeing in trying to make tria on the side with a price 50 k lower than an established merchant makeing it harder for other to sell there cause of ppl whineing about how they bought one cheaper 2 days ago of someone else. although i like to sell my weapons on cheaper they do need to be raised to create a lvl of were players are getting what they deserve without robbing each other blind {witch i have saw all to many times}. But has to be low enough for ppl to buy and fairly readaly afford witch brings you to the next hurdle of allowing for competition. so what basicaly has to be done is high enough to make a living and to allow players to undercut other generateing competition while still makeing it profetable and still keeping it low enough for others to buy. {dont know if all that makes sence]. but haveing the lvl linked to qaulity not allowing for refolding would be a very nice start to helping in this situation.