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zanzibar

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2007, 10:41:43 pm »
By that do you mean '"It doesn't seem like my ego will allow me to admit it", or was that just a crappy attempt to dodge the question?

See Nurahk's post.  It's pretty obvious though, I'm surprised you're having such trouble with it.
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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2007, 10:49:16 pm »
That doesnt make it ok. Prehaps you should try to change that aspect of yourself (jezz mental help over an internet forum for a game).

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2007, 11:47:37 pm »

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That kind of thing gets people behaving themselves in a hurry.

You'd actually support the editing of people's posts to change what they say rather than just deleting the post?  Wow.  I realize you're zanzibar, but do you always have to have the direct opposite viewpoint of me?

Anyways, I would say in general the moderating is fine, though incredibly inconsistent (some things that shouldn't be deleted are and some things that should aren't), but I suppose that has to do with having more moderators now (eh).

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I'm pretty sure the both of you annoy the majority of the forum users...if that helps.
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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2007, 11:52:50 pm »
Anyways, I would say in general the moderating is fine, though incredibly inconsistent (some things that shouldn't be deleted are and some things that should aren't) [...]

Seeing as how that's the second time inconsistency has been mentioned, I should ask for more details. Seems like a valid concern. Anything specific you can point out?
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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2007, 12:49:38 am »
Anyways, I would say in general the moderating is fine, though incredibly inconsistent (some things that shouldn't be deleted are and some things that should aren't) [...]

Seeing as how that's the second time inconsistency has been mentioned, I should ask for more details. Seems like a valid concern. Anything specific you can point out?

Now that you mention it, I have seen some people get away with words like 'bull****' and 'b****rd', yet some other people were censored for using the word 'queer' :P

See Nurahk's post.  It's pretty obvious though, I'm surprised you're having such trouble with it.

I don't understand it. At all. You say you get that you're being an egotistical prat, yet you continue to be one and still wonder why nobody ever sides with you, or does you any favours.

GMs/moderators/Devs/Admins/whatever else are human beings, you can't operate under the mentality that you can hurl whatever abuse you want at them and they have to take it because they're 'part of the system'. Or whatever other rationale you use for being a gobshite all the time... The point is that being unlikeable and abrasive will never ever have a positive effect on anything, unlike being a likable, charismatic fellow. How you treat people is how they treat you, it's the most basic knee-jerk reaction humans have. I punch you, you punch me. I joke with you, you joke with me. That's how it works.

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2007, 12:51:26 am »
Now that you mention it, I have seen some people get away with words like 'bull****' and 'b****rd', yet some other people were censored for using the word 'queer' :P

Getting away with the former is going to be fixed. Censoring the latter is stupid and should be complained about.
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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2007, 01:25:00 am »
Now that you mention it, I have seen some people get away with words like 'bull****' and 'b****rd', yet some other people were censored for using the word 'queer' :P

Getting away with the former is going to be fixed. Censoring the latter is stupid and should be complained about.

I would really hope that the use of the word queer would be fine used to mean odd or perculiar but then would be censored if it was being used as a homophobic slur.

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2007, 03:17:42 am »
Don't see much wrong with bastard to be honest.

Atleast, I'm assuming that's what b****rd is.

As for the rest of you.  Zanzi is trying to have a conversation about whether or not the moderation is strict enough.  As much as I love seeing people attack him, it's not adding to the topic at all.  He knows he can be classified as a troll, doesn't change whether or not the topic he has brought up is a good one or not.  Ad Hominen (sp?).
« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 03:20:23 am by Nurahk »

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2007, 04:46:40 am »
Don't see much wrong with bastard to be honest.

Atleast, I'm assuming that's what b****rd is.

As for the rest of you.  Zanzi is trying to have a conversation about whether or not the moderation is strict enough.  As much as I love seeing people attack him, it's not adding to the topic at all.  He knows he can be classified as a troll, doesn't change whether or not the topic he has brought up is a good one or not.  Ad Hominen (sp?).


I'm less a troll and more just a guy who says things people don't want to hear.  I can list off the real trolls of the forum if you wish but I'd get in trouble for it.:)
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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2007, 04:52:28 am »
Anyways, I would say in general the moderating is fine, though incredibly inconsistent (some things that shouldn't be deleted are and some things that should aren't) [...]

Seeing as how that's the second time inconsistency has been mentioned, I should ask for more details. Seems like a valid concern. Anything specific you can point out?

Not particularly, as it's hard to compare things that have been deleted versus things that haven't.  It's just something I've noticed.  I wouldn't say it's a big deal, however..

I'm less a troll and more just a guy who says things people don't want to hear.  I can list off the real trolls of the forum if you wish but I'd get in trouble for it.:)

Hey there, quit derailing your own thread.   You'd think if this was such an important topic to you to warrant a post in the complaint section rather then just posting trivial concerns, that you'd at least try to stay on-topic.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 04:54:06 am by Kiern »

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2007, 05:55:31 am »
I think that any inconsistencies have three sources none of which are really the fault of the Mod Squad.
1. the sheer volume of posts and the fast rate they come at times means they don't always get the consideration they need;

2. when things get heated something needs to be done NOW and often the edit, admonitions and penalties can't keep up with the flying fur and this leads to battle fatigue;

and 3.the moderators are only human can make mistakes and misinterpret events or have ingrained biases they do not realize.

I think they do a pretty good job all told under difficult circumstances although one thing that does concern me it they seem to be uniformly young and might benefit from a more seasoned perspective being added. I am not suggesting it is particularly wrong the way it is just that your world view changes as you get older and a mix of outlooks is generally useful. This might be a misunderstanding on my part but the primary day to day moderators seem to be Neko and Karyuu with their 20-ish perspective. Again I think they do a pretty good job.

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2007, 06:07:16 am »
Hey there, quit derailing your own thread.
I just wanted to join in on the fun.:)  The funny thing is that the people derailing this thread are the people who disagree with me - but by derailing the thread, they only prove me right.

I think that any inconsistencies have three sources none of which are really the fault of the Mod Squad.
It's a matter of policy, not fault.
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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2007, 06:27:20 am »
You only assume I'm 22 by what age I allow the forum to tell you.   :P

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2007, 07:07:13 am »
I think they do a pretty good job all told under difficult circumstances although one thing that does concern me it they seem to be uniformly young and might benefit from a more seasoned perspective being added. I am not suggesting it is particularly wrong the way it is just that your world view changes as you get older and a mix of outlooks is generally useful. This might be a misunderstanding on my part but the primary day to day moderators seem to be Neko and Karyuu with their 20-ish perspective. Again I think they do a pretty good job.

Well, but there's also Venge.  Granted he doesn't come around much but he pretty much gives them his "perspective".  Of course, I don't know how things are run but I've been around him and Talad enough to assume they keep a pretty tight handle on things...

Hey there, quit derailing your own thread.
I just wanted to join in on the fun.:)  The funny thing is that the people derailing this thread are the people who disagree with me - but by derailing the thread, they only prove me right.

I disagree with you plenty.  And I don't see how you can knowingly add to the problem you are complaning about and then expect the moderators to do something about it.  You're blatantly breaking rules.  See, in some aspect I do agree with you I guess...I would have banned you a while ago for things such as that.

You only assume I'm 22 by what age I allow the forum to tell you.   :P

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« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 07:09:26 am by Kiern »

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Re: Moderation isn't strict enough.
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2007, 07:23:21 am »
And I don't see how you can knowingly add to the problem you are complaning about and then expect the moderators to do something about it.
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Actually, I'm not.
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