For those of us who can''t access BD even with fixes and tinkering....

[Jenivi]

Dear Shifters, I am one of possibly many of you who cannot access BD even though we have downloaded Talad's new map and tinkered with our setup utility. Our computers become slow, laggy, and then completely unresponsive. /unstick is useless, along with autorun and the sit command. We are missing out on a whole different area of the world to explore, and worst of all...HELMET QUESTS! Do you want a helmet and can't get one? I know I do! Let's urge the staff to move all BD quests throughout the road to Ojaveda (there's plently of room out there!!) so that we can all access all off the quests. Show your support. Reply to this post with: I Support Equal Quest Access.

[Caarrie]

Have you updated your graphics card drivers? These quests are where are for a reason I dont see any of the devs moving npcs or moving quests at this point maybe in the future there will be other quests that give the same rewards.

[Jenivi]

I'm using a mac so that's kind of not an option, yet another reason why there should be other ways to get helmets. It sort of snuffs the idea that you support cross platform with mac if you cannot accomodate older Power PC's running OS X.

I might sound like a nag and a pest but I'm only trying to come up with ways that EVERYONE can enjoy what you have created.

[Nikodemus]

Recommending to update graphics card driver is not always a good idea. If it is 2 years old.... then maybe. But if it is older... it will give no good result, but it may cause it to work slower. Here is why:

Companies don't care much about their very old (older than 2 years) products, because they spent their time (money) on developing better stuff where it is better used - new hardware. The driver algorhytms gets more complicated, include new stuff, which may be used by the new hardware... But if you have old hardware, which just isn't physicaly capable to support this, don't except some algorhytms miracles there. there is nothing amaizng with them besides the fact they know how to use functions of the new hardware.
What happens with the older hardware then? No new functions possible, but the algorhytms are more massive and take longer to process data, so in fact your old graphics card with new drivers works worse than before.

[Karyuu]

If you are experiencing problems on the mac platform with the BD map, you're going to have to hang in there for a fix. I don't browse through the Mac section of the forum often, but maybe you should if you haven't done so yet - to see what the status of the problem is, if there are any work-arounds, etc. However, we're not going to be moving quests to different locations - we're going to be trying to fix the issue that causes the crashes. It sucks not being able to access everything due to technical problems sometimes, but you kind of have to expect bumps in a 0.3 version of a game. They will be taken care of.

[neko kyouran]

In the mean time, if you want a helmet, you could, you know, interact with others and have them get you one for you.

[Gherph]

Let's start somewhere....

What video card are you running and what are your system specs??

[Under the moon]

Yes, yes. Get me a few helmets as well. I could use some more pots for my gardening character (when she comes back).

In the meantime, all good things come to those who wait. You have crafting right now (as it is). Two years ago, there were barely swords, and no BD at all. Give it time.

[Induane]

There are some problems with the way the bd region is designed.  Given a week or so with the source files I'm confident I could manage to get most people in (not including the people thwarted by particle effects).  I offered though, but doesn't look like they will take me up on it.   That said after a bit I may try a few things manually.  We'll see how it goes.

[Zan]

Ind .. you go fix my crashes first, then redesign the Bronze Doors region

[Induane]

BD Region doesn't need redesigned, just modified a bit.  I'm not a scholar when it comes to reading world files anyways so there is probably stuff I"m not seeing in it anyways.  I'd just try making sure to pay attention to renderloop, meshtype, light types, etc.  The version of crystalspace now that is used in ps also supports lightmaps on genmesh with lighter2 so the possibilities are nearly endless.

[dfryer]

Major problems on the macs with bronzedoors occur because of thingmesh/lightmap usage.  Running with --fullbright mitigates it somewhat, but the only "real" fix is to convert & relight the level as genmesh.  As for equal quest access.. well, I'm on an old (>5yr) Mac .. BD is manageable with lightmaps off and in fullscreen although still fairly laggy.  I'd like to be able to fix it, but the most "efficient" solution is to wait for the genmesh conversion.

[wither]

You should have answered my ad in auction.  I tried giving away a merc helm for over a week, i ended up selling it to harn.

[Valorius Rageway]

I have a bunch of horned helms.

Send a /tell to valorius ingame, i'll gladly sell you one for cheap.

Sorry to hear about your BD problems.