OOC: Hydlaa Rebillion

[bilbous]

Those whom the Gods would destroy, They first make mad. I personally do not see much wrong with the role play but I do think it is kind of self-destructive in a way where the characters have little hope of returning to any kind of normal PS existence. They are off to the mothership, drinking koolaid with Jimmy Jones. The leader may find a way to go on but only if he is operating in the background drawing the followers down the garden path.

I, myself have floated the idea that the gods were nothing more than extremely powerful sorcerers on the forum and once or twice in the game. At a certain level of power it is indistinguishable. They may not be actual gods but they might as well be for all the difference it makes to the players.

I think part of the problem the role play is addressing is that there are few if any players playing the part of true believers learning all they can from the priests and spreading the word. The biggest problem I see with the role play is that the world is not well enough developed functionally and settings wise for the player opposition it so desperately calls for.

But then I have seen nothing of it in game.

[Waylander]

The problem with the RP, besides the many OOC references I still see.  Is that it has nowhere to go.

The 'Gods' you are speaking of are controlled by the Devs, all this RP will do is slowly flounder away until one Devs gets so annoyed with it that he comes in and smites all the nonbelievers.  So, what does it accomplish besides distracting a Dev for a little while?

It's an RP that is based completely off the OOC time limitations of the Devs.  If you can not see that, I'd recommend trying out another game.

[Sangwa]

I think the rebellion, for as far as I've seen, is a plausible roleplay. All it needs is a GM tutoring it, realism and a mature attitude from its players, who should have their characters sent off to the crystal (ie permanently dead).

Talad would make short work of anyone bullying his Hydlaa. Or Laanx could do it. I've seen it take care of some people...

Devs would surely not get involved in it. GMs can make up a false godly appearance and get the show done with. I actually think it's a good idea, that'd show future generations. Considering the punishment is what I've told, I doubt there would be much people repeating the feat.

[bilbous]

I still think petrification would be a suitable result. Re-animation might be a good basis for them to become the nucleus of just such a core of true believers as is missing. It would likely require the services of one of the RP GMs to effect such an occurrence and the cooperation of the current players but it could be that if none of them wanted to play such an on-going role that the re-animation would fail. That said I would assume that such a plot would unfold only if one or more were willing to be enlightened and if none were the petrified PCs would rapidly erode so as to not become a permanent part of the scenery. 

[Maju]

"Are these just gods? many have spilled blood on my dagger, my sacks full of trias from victums, yet i see no justice? I stand before you today free of prosecution, free of fear."

Maybe you should keep this to yourself - the gods may not strike you directly, but plenty of lawful people in Yliakum would be very happy to take justice into their own hands at your daring. Why should they listen to someone who has killed and stolen, and is evidently unafraid of shouting this in the plaza of Yliakum's capitol? 

The case is that they can't do anything about it... because the government of Yilakum protects equally everyone: believers and atheists, faithful and heathen. Maybe you can be challenged to duel... but that's not the same as a good old-style lynching.

[Coneitic]

lol all who want to rp please be sure to run it by waylander. make sure he approves of it. or you have to deal with his "nu uh" attitude. words of wisdom

and ummmmmm did we forget the word propaganda? whoever said you had to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you laanx?

ever think maybe i exagerated and falsified statements just get more attention from the crowd?


you really need to learn how to rp, waylander. you cant even understand ooc and IC.

it is a self destruction. this is the end of coneitic. it was the end of eid.. again and i dont think gwinn would be around much longer. as for duraza thats his decision.

what better way to go out than to curse the gods who supposedly gave us life?

once again attacks because of my ooc opinion. constant "nu uh". 


learn to rp.

[Karyuu]

The case is that they can't do anything about it... because the government of Yilakum protects equally everyone: believers and atheists, faithful and heathen. Maybe you can be challenged to duel... but that's not the same as a good old-style lynching.

I didn't say anything about belief systems - the guards will investigate anyone openly shouting that they have killed and stolen, and it's good RP to take that into consideration. Especially if you're shouting in the plaza, where not only players but NPCs (which you must consider as part of the world) might get you reported. A normal person isn't going to stand up tall and yell "I killed people!" You have to be pretty suicidal.

The thing is Coneitic, the gods aren't going to do anything. It's a dead-end RP. There won't be any smiting, no one is going to hit your character with a holy lightning bolt, and things will be pretty uneventful because Laanx and Talad have bigger issues to consider as deities. So where are you going with it?

[Reyna Kaviri]

this seems to have turned into a negative argument rather than a positive RP...i hate to see it go, it was gonna be funny

just a question Coneitic: Are you always ticked or just on the forums?

[Imperial Tasks]

True... Why would Talad and Laanx bother with something that could be taken by the Guard, or by people's common sense.

As long as the Guard sends someone to the Crystal. I want to witness one of those.

Oops. Wrong account. My bad -_-.

[Sangwa]

The above post falls under my responsibility.

[Waylander]

lol all who want to rp please be sure to run it by waylander. make sure he approves of it. or you have to deal with his "nu uh" attitude. words of wisdom

This would be the first RP I've ever denounced on the forums, Coneitic.  And you still haven't addressed my point, instead, you are ignoring.  Not surprising, to be honest, seeing as they are all quite valid and make you look more like somebody screaming for attention than somebody hoping to make a good RP.  To be honest, the majority of people I've talked to seem to believe you are much more the former.

you really need to learn how to rp, waylander. you cant even understand ooc and IC.

Ignoring the fact that you've yet to explain the three very OOC comments I quoted you making.  I'd like to point out that I've been playing this game for four years and have only got a complaint from Valorius.  If anything, that just proves how well I RP.

it is a self destruction. this is the end of coneitic. it was the end of eid.. again and i dont think gwinn would be around much longer. as for duraza thats his decision.

Ah, so you are just out to look like a martyr...  As I said, somebody screaming for attention.

once again attacks because of my ooc opinion. constant "nu uh". 


learn to rp.

Alright.  You keep saying that I have this constant "nu uh" thing.  Even after agreeing with you in the Imperial Guard thread.  This need to be straightened out.
For the most part, I encourage people.  Usually with a "meh" or "yeah sure" attitude.

But this goes far beyond "nu uh".  Right now, my feeling towards this RP is more along the lines of "Wow...Hahahahaha!  I can't believe somebody is doing this.  Please, oh please, delete his character.  It would be great!  Just say the gods did it."

Read over my posts, Connie, I pointed out three comments you made that were OOC and then showed how your RP was false.

So far you have come up with "Nu uh"

Does anybody else see his inability to confront the issue?

[eldoth_terevan]

I think we should all take a deep breath and refrain from getting too personal here. RP or no RP, respect is in short enough supply in the world without making out that any of this more important than it actually is. And the gods do not care anyway.

[Coneitic]

duraza already spoke of the three points you made wayland and did an excellent job.


and kayruu, thats where the problems are starting. you are reading it and jumping to conclusion. this is far from a dead end rp. with goals you have yet to see. your just going on what someone might have heard walking down the plaza. if you would like to know every detail, every turn, the final ending. then you have to take that up with duraza. again everyones asking me and its duraza's rp.

whatever happend to reading a book till the end and making a decision? when did reading the first page of a book become all you need to start attacking it?

[Waylander]

He addressed one point and said that he doesn't (he can't) know what you are talking about.

I don't see that as addressing.

I replied with this

The only way that I see this as not being an attack to the game mechanics is if Connie is playing a very ignorant and, to be fair, stupid character.
Otherwise, it's looking very much like it's OOC.

To which nobody has yet replied.

That leaves many more points that have yet to be addressed.

If a PS book started off with "Stop training and doing quests" I'd criticize it before reading it until the end.  I think most people would do the same.

[Coneitic]

yes coneitic is very stupid. he always has been. he has only been after trias for the longest time. never tried to gain an education... never tried to learn about the world. he attacked whomever he thought would have a sack full of trias. many know this. he has been beat up so many times. it was almost enjoying when he lost fights. he never thought about what he was doing or made plans. just went with the flow which was very stupid considering his plans were mostly thefts, killings and kidnappings.