Weddings - what's the deal?

[bilbous]

If you really want a gay marriage you could always create a female character and play it as a drag queen, none of the races have naughty parts anyways. I am certain there are any number of transexual characters (characters with a different gender than their player) already so what is the big deal?

[Maju]

I like the marraige opption don't take it out, it makes the game more realisitic and such, I mean in rl when you get married then you file papers...

But do it at the office or temple, not in the middle of the plaza. Anyhow it's mostly an RP thingy and the not allowance of same-sex marriages is due to cause some disputes than good. After all it's a hot socio-political issue nowadays.

[Coneitic]

it should be called a union not a marriage

[Natrina]

I believe that Kran may only marry Kran. Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't tested it.

I did do some testing before posting this . Things may have changed since two days ago, but if not, the reality in-game is a neko kyouran said it to be.

BTW what is all the talk about sex? I don't think you can have sex in game, can you? I've never tried.

Sex shapes a lot in a society and races and that's why we're bringing it into here. About your second question: Hmm.

it should be called a union not a marriage

What are you referring to? Same-sex? It's unlikely it's going to happen in the first place, not to mention that you sound like Obama and I'll try to see that with the same good will he has. PS protects a lot non-discrimination, but it's not like it's going to take stances on social polemics, nope.

[Edit: Obama, Obama... I'm so bad at memorizing names.]

[RoberetGoldsmith]

my only complaint  on the new marriage button is where now everyone can see it adn  knows its there and I get all these random purposals all the time..I mean its strange...stop and say hello at least frist.. I am serisous I have gotten 3 in the last few days from people I never talked to or knew....thats kinda annoying.

Maybe people just like the look of you

Love at first sight?? lol

[eldoth_terevan]

It was more annoying (and funny) when the button was mapped, but there was no icon... and you could propose marriage by some obscure mouse-movement and click combo. I remember more than one new player being horrified that they had proposed to someone else and had no idea how they did it. Hah! Also, union is already a synonym for marriage in English. I really do not want to ask my girlfriend in game if she wants to get "unionized"...

[Coneitic]

no, just marriage seems to ooc and more of this world.

i union would mean how it sounds. two people uniting.

and the fact that it was made that you couldnt marry the same sex is very discriminating and shows alot about the dev who made that rule.

[Unnamed_Source]

Can you get divorced?

And what about the polygamy thing?

[Coneitic]

u can divorce
 

but no polygamy another discrimination.

[Earl_Listbard]

no, just marriage seems to ooc and more of this world.

i union would mean how it sounds. two people uniting.

and the fact that it was made that you couldnt marry the same sex is very discriminating and shows alot about the dev who made that rule.

Homosexuality was a sin in medieval times... and no doubt it is a sin in the laanx and talad clergy's..... Aethiests have no power in yliakum, so I don't see how same sex marriage /could/ happen... ICly characters would be too afraid of the retribution and retaliation of such a crime.




Prejudice is part of medieval times, there is no democracy, or /rights/ of freedom of sex.


And no doubt polygemy is another sin, one could attribute both laanx teachings and talad teachings very closely to christianity. Such acts like these would result in horrid consequences, only a fool would persue them. Agaian, Yliakum is not a free age, its not the modern age, its much more primitive... Respect that.

[Waylander]

There are many valid points for both allowing and disallowing same sex marriage.

On one hand, PlaneShift should be an escape and so, allowing same-sex marriage would help a lot of people do that.

On the other hand, PlaneShift has to have it's own world that fits closely with cultures in similar time periods, disallowing same-sex marriage is the best way to do that.

Now, whether Laanx and Talad even care about it in another point.  We can't compare them with the gods of our world.

But, one must note that Yliakum isn't the most peaceful of places, children are trained to fight from a very young age.  I imagine many people would die every year and in order to keep the population growing same-sex marriages would be disallowed.

This can go either way and is completely up to Talad and Xillix to decide.

Worst come to worst, one male partner can play a female or they can both play Kran.

[bilbous]

Similar to what I was saying before, but probably not too helpful, is that I believe same sex marriages are extremely common presently. All it takes is for two players of the same gender to get married, one with a male character and another with a female. I am sure that in some cases one of the parties is not even aware they are in a same sex marriage. Like wise I am positive there are any number of players with more than one married character which to me would be a form of polygamy.

None of this explains why Laanx or Talad should offer such services in their religions anyway as they certainly never married. Laanx was Voduls lover not wife unless I am mistaken so marriage would seem to be outside the settings anyway. That is not to say that permanent or long-term pairings are uncommon or should be but since the Gods care not for such formal commitments why would they provide them for their followers. And another thing seeing as how there are real Gods in the game that are getting dragged into such ceremonies shouldn't there be some kind of undesirable effect for getting a divorce and wasting the Gods attention in the first place if you can even get one at all? Are you a widow(er) if your partner goes to the DR, what if you remarry before he gets back?

I realize marriages are popular among some of the players but they never seemed to make much sense to me and particularly not it PS. I would add this to the inconsistency thread even.

[Earl_Listbard]

Similar to what I was saying before, but probably not too helpful, is that I believe same sex marriages are extremely common presently. All it takes is for two players of the same gender to get married, one with a male character and another with a female. I am sure that in some cases one of the parties is not even aware they are in a same sex marriage. Like wise I am positive there are any number of players with more than one married character which to me would be a form of polygamy.

Thats an extreamly ooc view, the actual player's don't get married when their character's do. And having an alt thats married is not a form of polygemy, Polygemy would having one character with several other partners.

Frankly I don't see the big deal, i've seen homosexual couples in PS of both male and male, and female and female, they don't get officaly married, Yet I have yet to see any one of those character's even hold a ceremoney.

Waylander, I compare laanx and talad to religons today because frankly the religous morales are very very very very very Vauge in planeshift, as to whats right and whats wrong, not even I can see the line.

[bilbous]

Fair enough Earl, but real life marriages have been known to breakup because one spouse had reason to be jealous of the other's virtual spouse. Some people get sucked into these things unintentionally.

[Waylander]

That will be fixed in time, I'm sure.  But, it doesn't make the comparison correct.

That is all I'm saying.