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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #90 on: September 28, 2007, 03:32:18 pm »
The first post in this thread is from a senior dev offering the chance to confess and perhaps avoid a heavy punishment.

Any suggestion that a list of names will be posted is purely player led opinion and while everyone is entitled to an opinion hat is exactly what it is opinion only.

With regard to exploiters accounts being deleted yes they can easily make a new account but would still be restricted by the IP ban and a greater punishment they would lose all the stats and skills they had developed during gameplay.

Now there no longer seems to be much that can be added to this post, if you are seriously concerned about your chars money then follow the notification instructions in the first post.

There is no need to publish the full details of the exploit if one had accidentally done enough to notice then one should have reported it.
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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #91 on: September 28, 2007, 03:33:59 pm »
So stop focusing on your revenge and bloodthirst, but use the time to figure out a new roleplaying-event for you can set up some kickass plot=P
When a robber gets his sentence, it's not revenge, but executing law.

Or would you rather have the team pat someone on the head and say to never do that again after that person impersonated you for months?
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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #92 on: September 28, 2007, 03:37:18 pm »
I wasnt meant to say those cheaters shall not get punished - be sure I would like to know them at least having their cheated money wiped.
What I am against though is, having their names public.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #93 on: September 28, 2007, 03:38:03 pm »
I don't know where people are getting this notion of us perpetuating some sense of moral superiority from what was posted by the team at least.

People have already confessed.

we are not looking for those who did this thing once accidentally, we are looking for people who did it over and over to make themselves millions.

Anyone presenting a cavalier attitude toward cheaters overlooks their impact on other players and most particularly new players.

We are not revealing the exploit.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #94 on: September 28, 2007, 03:40:37 pm »
What I am against though is, having their names public.
Oh, um. I didn't realise that was the intention.
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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #95 on: September 28, 2007, 03:41:10 pm »
The ironic thing of this all is that I just finished the "Sierann is waiting" quest which involves fake trias brought into circuit by an official instance  :whistling: (I suppose I can say this without spoiling).

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #96 on: September 28, 2007, 03:48:05 pm »
About 3 hours remaining for the confessions, then we can restore the server.

Update:
- the fix is completed thanks to Kayden and Kemedes. The fix is loaded into laanx server. It's no more possible to exploit this bug
- many people sent emails just to be sure they are not in the delete list, but they were not in most cases, you cannot exploit the bug without knowing. The bug added major quantity of money to your inventory, so you should notice very easily.
- The list of "cheaters" is made and we will proceed to deletion or just money/items wipe in the next hours.
- we tried as much as possible to preserve your characters, your items, your money. We just removed the most evident cheats.
- For all the ones of you who fear for their char, remember we are speaking of millions trias here not of 10 thousands.

I hope the economy will get back in place, surely there will still be people with lot of money, but a lot less then before. We plan to remove about 500 millions trias in money/items made by cheating.

We did our best to cross-check all logs and data and remove only the chars/money/items which seemed obviously a result of cheating.

« Last Edit: September 28, 2007, 03:52:45 pm by Talad »

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #97 on: September 28, 2007, 03:53:15 pm »
And of course, the GM's that reported this bug where others abused it get the most credit.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #98 on: September 28, 2007, 04:06:01 pm »
Can't you post the list of characters being deleted/changed? (or just a hash of each, to blur it a bit)

Or how can I know that the chosen method to detect the exploiters is mathematically perfect and does not depend on probability?

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #99 on: September 28, 2007, 04:13:52 pm »
Can't you post the list of characters being deleted/changed? (or just a hash of each, to blur it a bit)

Or how can I know that the chosen method to detect the exploiters is mathematically perfect and does not depend on probability?

It does depend on probability. We can't know for sure that the money was gotten there by an exploit.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #100 on: September 28, 2007, 04:33:29 pm »
 :thumbup: To the honest player that reported this bug.
Run your permissions at least once a week. You will be amazed what it can solve.

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #101 on: September 28, 2007, 04:38:11 pm »
About 3 hours remaining for the confessions, then we can restore the server.

06:48:05 + 03:00:00= 09:48:05
Is this time in GMT ?

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #102 on: September 28, 2007, 04:41:36 pm »
Nope. Its almost 4 in GMT right now. Must be your local.

Edit: Wait your location is France. Mustn't have set your local timezone.
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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #103 on: September 28, 2007, 05:42:51 pm »
Can someone tell me the dated it has been locked and the date it will be fixed and opened?
« Last Edit: September 28, 2007, 05:45:10 pm by nightwolf »

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Re: Money exploit: Confession Window
« Reply #104 on: September 28, 2007, 05:45:31 pm »
Soon(tm)
;)

As Talad already stated, the fix is complete. If the server is still down, it should just be until the end of this 24hr window - in which case, back in another couple of hours or so.