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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 03:12:02 am »
What makes me not want to RP?

1. /shout THIS EVENT SUCKS/THIS IS WHY I NEVER DO GM EVENTS/I AM LEAVING!

2. Over the top drama. *casts arm to the sky*

3. Thinking about how you have no power to actually change anything (as your character).

4. Character Creation.

5. Fair for all (anyone can do/be anything)

6. Godmoders.

7. Someone still freaking saying my character's name like they know him despite the new intro system, and doing it just to prove they can get around the system and be a jerk.

8. Lack of 'bad' things to do as a nasty character.

9. Lack of consequences for a nasty character.

10. The training system, and trying to use it.

None of these actually make me stop. If you go looking for roleplaying, you will not find it. Roleplay is where your character is.


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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 03:42:36 am »
1. /shout THIS EVENT SUCKS/THIS IS WHY I NEVER DO GM EVENTS/I AM LEAVING!

I completely agree. Show some class, people. Either play along or shut up.

4. Character Creation.

Again, i agree. The original char creation is fine, and the tutorial is great for new players, but there should be (i know this is being discussed and worked on) an option to skip, else it makes creating chars for RP tedious.
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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2008, 07:43:32 am »
I also think the training system gets in the way of role playing. It seems entirely too large. This may be a radical idea but to get it out of the way of role play skill levels should be greatly reduced say by a factor of 20 and the jumps between level abilities made to match. Then there ought to be several skill related quests that must be done to advance to the next level with the last requirement being time spent off-line which is considered to be practicing. This could be something simple like one week per level, one week to go to level two, two weeks to go to level three, etc. You should only be able to train one level at a time and time in game with that character not counting towards its training. If weeks seem too long make it days with each level double the days of the last.

This way time spent in game would have little to do with training so people would have more incentive to RP. There would still be people grinding for money but for me at least it is very unsatisfying to do when progression is not happening. Even when it is happening it is not all that and definitely no pie a la mode. It would, however allow people who hate to level and only want to role play to role play constantly with one low level schmo while their advanced characters gradually come into their powers. Once their characters have the levels they want all they have to do is forgo the quests for the next level and they will stop advancing.

I do not suppose such an idea will be adopted but it is something to think about.

So to tie it all in with the thread topic, I role play all the time except when I am talking OOC with someone. Most of the time is spent trying to better myself and learn whatever I can. This means I am usually preoccupied with the grind of one sort or another and have little time for melodrama and pointless chit-chat. I refuse to put on airs or claim abilities I have not earned and mostly ignore those who do. Those are a few of the things that make me not want to role play and the forgoing is something that I think would help. Now that you asked.

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2008, 08:17:08 am »
Again, i agree. The original char creation is fine, and the tutorial is great for new players, but there should be (i know this is being discussed and worked on) an option to skip, else it makes creating chars for RP tedious.

Only the first character on an account has to go through the tutorial. If you are an existing player and needed to make a secondary account for whatever reason - the tutorial only has to be done once on that account as well...and it shouldn't take you long as you are familiar with the game.

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2008, 10:43:59 am »
Roleplying is an important part for me. Not the only reason I play PS, but I think the most important. I don't have much experience with other MMORPGs, mainly because I watched friends playing them and noted that they are mostly about who kills most monsters in a short time and who uses the most mysterious language (l33t) ;). So I was very happy when I stumbled over PS

But now to the reasons want keeps me off from RP sometimes.
- RL - my daughter, my girlfriend....  :D
- my mood - Sometimes I just want to spend a hour or so with relaxing. Just running around in a virtual world, hitting some monsters on the head and not much thinking. And sometimes I'm just not in the mood to talk a lot and think how my character would act in a specific situation. Then I normally just do some quests.
- on rare occasions, the reactions / OOC chatting of other players - I think I can tolerate a lot from other players, giving them hints about using brackets of /tells for OOC talking or trying to explain what godmodding is and why it is bad. But at some point it's too much for me. But that happend only a few times since I played.
- the character I play - I think this is not really a valid point, because I think I RP in those moment, but other players my think so. If I play a good character for example and someone wants me to help him kill someone, most of the time the character will leave with just a few words. Or a bad character of mine, would surely not stay in the tarvern if a lot of other players enter and boast about how the taken down a thief lately
- helping other players - When a new player I help before asks me in a /tell something, I maybe leave to help him

But finally I want to say that I could not imagine playing PS without roleplaying. The most funny and thrilling situations only occur during roleplaying. And you never know what happens next...When you asked me some times ago, I would never had expected seeing Aiwendil dancing for some men ;D.

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2008, 02:26:21 pm »
1) People who can't wrap their head around RP and RP at least semi-properly.  I'm willing to work with different RP styles and the likes, but those who have no capacity to RP have no place in my mind...:S
2) Training is only a minor disruption to me...but not being able to train is a much larger one.  Just what is going on with NPCClient? :P
3) Inflation, inflation, inflation...it seems to occur every time a new lode of precious metal is discovered.

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 02:55:10 pm »
Quote from: Kaerli
3) Inflation, inflation, inflation...it seems to occur every time a new lode of precious metal is discovered.
Why is trias losing its value making you want to stop roleplaying?

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2008, 04:02:54 pm »
Quote from: Kaerli
3) Inflation, inflation, inflation...it seems to occur every time a new lode of precious metal is discovered.
Why is trias losing its value making you want to stop roleplaying?

I think Kaerli means what Donari and I have said, that the mines cause a big distraction from doing anything besides hoarding.

I don't rp if I can't get anyone else involved in a small random one. It's hard when my audience is a bunch of faceless silent miners sitting and standing like some weird Tae Bo video.
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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2008, 04:41:54 pm »
Yeah, when balance all goes to hell and a peasant could buy a pterosaur after 1 day of digging.
Although this may be over one day as the game evolve, the inflation is a dangerous occurrence. Its easy to cause it, harder to withdrawl. We shall see.



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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2008, 10:14:34 pm »
Do you stop roleplaying because the community is bad at it?

Rarely. Community is mostly fine, but there's a lot of people who don't really want to be a part of it, and separate themselves with n00bishnezz.

Do you stop roleplaying because the game has little to do with it?

I don't actually stop roleplaying due to this, but it seems that the game does have little to do with it. The powerlevellers and anti-RPers have more effect on the economy, and it's like pure RPers can't make any effect on anything.

Do you stop roleplaying because you don't know how to do it and there's nobody to learn from?

No...

Do you stop roleplaying because the settings are boring and unappealing for you?

No.

Or,

do you stop because of the reasons stated in the first part of this post?


No and yes. Real life comes first. Main reason why I don't like RPing as much as I used to is the introduction system.

I guess the real questions are:

What makes you want to role play?


I just want a game to play. Keeps me busy when I have nothing to do, and roleplay is fun. But it's hard to roleplay when you've got all these stupid limits to what you can do (mechanics and this new intro system). My main character usually doesn't exchange names with other people, so the introduction system is what I consider a limit. I know whoever though it up was trying to fix that silly little problem where a noob would call someone he doesn't know by name (which never did happen too often), but, seriously... This is like nuking an ant hill; it's overkill. And guess what, the problem's still there! I still got randoms--even more than before--coming up to my character and saying, "Hello, <name>." It's creating more problems than there were before.

and

How good at it are you?


I think I suck.  :P True, though.

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2008, 10:27:40 pm »
Again, i agree. The original char creation is fine, and the tutorial is great for new players, but there should be (i know this is being discussed and worked on) an option to skip, else it makes creating chars for RP tedious.

Only the first character on an account has to go through the tutorial. If you are an existing player and needed to make a secondary account for whatever reason - the tutorial only has to be done once on that account as well...and it shouldn't take you long as you are familiar with the game.

really? wow, that isn't so for me... it might be because i deleted my first character when i made my second (i've only made two chars).
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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2008, 10:31:25 pm »
really? wow, that isn't so for me... it might be because i deleted my first character when i made my second (i've only made two chars).

if you delete your first the server cant tell that any of your chars have made it though the tutorial, the server is not that smart just yet.

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2008, 10:41:19 pm »
Quote from: Under the moon
What makes me not want to RP?

1. /shout THIS EVENT SUCKS/THIS IS WHY I NEVER DO GM EVENTS/I AM LEAVING!

2. Over the top drama. *casts arm to the sky*

3. Thinking about how you have no power to actually change anything (as your character).

4. Character Creation.

5. Fair for all (anyone can do/be anything)

6. Godmoders.

7. Someone still freaking saying my character's name like they know him despite the new intro system, and doing it just to prove they can get around the system and be a jerk.

8. Lack of 'bad' things to do as a nasty character.

9. Lack of consequences for a nasty character.

10. The training system, and trying to use it.


No point in making a list when Under the moon has done it for me already. :P Seriously though, each one of these points I agree with and stand by. These (what is stated above) are reasons that would affect my RP. Not necessarily stop it but definitely affect my mood and where I take my character that day. Or how I would react to people in game.

I never try to stop roleplaying unless it is called for. That is what attracted me to this game. The unique community and the passion for roleplay.
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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2008, 12:30:49 am »

Nvm not a fight worth fighting.

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Re: What makes you not want to RP?
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2008, 12:43:35 am »
Blaming lack of information about every single detail in PS's world to discourage roleplaying I seriously cant agree on at all. Have a look at the libraries and the NPCs all over, compare how much stuff gets added frequently.. We meanwhile have a book describing fauna and areas and whatnot - while I have no doubt loads of stuff will come within short before I wont have read everything about the "current stuff", the current information provides SOO much options to play with. After all, only few I approached included deep information into their roleplay - update your knowledge and surprise us players with the stuff already implemented (knowledge-wise)=P