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Would you like to see roleplaying more strictly enforced and more highly encouraged on Laanx?

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Dajoji

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #120 on: November 11, 2008, 09:06:36 pm »
@Dajoji WOW... it works well. I thought I had read something about how those didn't work correctly because of stacking... or to avoid using them because of stacking weapons... but it works!!! Maybe there should be a default shortcut set up for emptying the left and right hands?

Stacking will take place but if you keep your regular weapons in the main inventory window and the others in sacks there shouldn't be a problem. You can also equip and dequip specific items like "reinforced battle axe of seduction" if that's the kind of weapon you use (not sure if you need the quotes but it works too one way or the other). I always used a "mighty morphing" shortcut to d/equip all weapons and armor pieces since I didn't like my chars to walk around in full gear all the time. You can also add a /me or /my line to the command if you wanna be theatrical or even cast a spell while you gear up.


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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #121 on: November 11, 2008, 09:11:49 pm »
There are currently a few problems with dequiping several items in one go, but a bug fix for that will be in svn soon.

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #122 on: November 12, 2008, 11:39:51 am »
Man, can't you guys focus?
All that matters is that the GM's should make an attempt at enforcing RP. Mainly because this is a Roleplay Game and not because some poll tells us so (even though both the poll and common sense are together on this one; If playing football is enforced when you're playing a football match [by the referees] so should RP be enforced when you're playing a RPG [by the moderators]).
However they do it, it's up with them. They've had enough hints over the years, so they should do fine.
And instead of thinking we're getting fascism here, consider that we're just making sure GM's make it so characters don't have horns where they shouldn't and that every player roleplays his own character (instead of typing "/me kills you") in a consistent way (according to settings and mechanics), without annoying people (avoiding abuses). Doesn't that sound like something we all want? Sure, so we have to give it a try.

Maybe I'd take out descriptions too, since most people can't use them (i.e. lots of people use them to post character's background or silly, impossible features.) In fact, I'd rather have "iconless", "sack-looking" items that would add "Is wearing *item*" to the description then having free editable descriptions that lead towards everyone having way too stupid descriptions. (Shadows hovering around, horns on Ylians, demon wings on diabolis, extra sexy characters, etc.) That's just me though, who cares, just as long as we have some nice moderation that can handle it. It would certainly reduce work though.
Disclaimer: This is my opinion and I can be reasoned with. I'm probably right, though.

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #123 on: November 12, 2008, 12:30:21 pm »
Yup.  Character descriptions are a big problem in the game.

Maybe we can have a new kind of game master?  They would spend all their time fixing roleplay problems, so that the other game masters can look out for things like botting.  Since they're making sure players don't go outside the settings or interfere with the atmosphere of the game, they could be called the "Settings Squad", or S.S. for short.


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I do want to see bad roleplay behaviors corrected.  I think it would be wonderful if the game moderators were empowered to do more.  I also think it's a very complicated problem, but we're creative people and can find creative solutions for it.
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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #124 on: November 12, 2008, 06:47:16 pm »
how about more gm's and more gm involvement with rp's? take a different approach and surround the game around rp. if theres a fight in the middle of the town have a gm come over and figure out whats going on with a guard. if there is an rp fight maybe control the players so they give a better show.

encourage them by giving them more than

/greet
/smile

i can count the number of times a gm has gotten involved with my rp and afterwards everyone was so happy about it, and now today i see some of the ones that were noobs then have stayed and gotten way better.

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #125 on: November 12, 2008, 09:46:19 pm »
GM involvement in roleplay actually results in more bad than good. The reason for that is, a lot of people surround the GM, roleplayer or not, thinking they'll get a reward by participating. That isn't really the proper message to convey, as seen in many events.

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #126 on: November 12, 2008, 09:50:26 pm »
or the gm stays invisible.... like ive seen many times.

or you know have a toon they log into when they want to get involved and not use when they dont... like they do now i believe.

gm events are lame to the fullest we've all seen that. but ya having a bunch of people that surround to watch a big rp is a proper message. guess we'll stick to

/greet
/smile
/wave
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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #127 on: November 12, 2008, 11:00:09 pm »
Again... what is with the caustic response? GMs can be logged in without having to be involved in an "event" that draws everyone to them like moths to a flame. GMs can keep the peace and enforce the rules, and do that a LOT more often than they hold events for the players to criticize until their finger get tired of typing...

The GMs, while not all as all-knowing as we might like, are here to help the game. They volunteer their time to helping move people who are stuck, investigate every complaint, and when they find the time... put on events. All to help the game be enjoyable for us, instead of playing it themselves. PLEASE take half a second to think about this before spewing your venom all over the forums about how lousy a job they do.

As to events attracting every tom, dick and harry in the game... it is because they bring something DIFFERENT to the game. Almost everything else in the game is incredibly static, and gets boring after a while. Some event happens, and people show up just to see what has changed or might change. It isn't to ruin your RP... or just to piss you off... it is to see something other than the same old stuff day in and day out. Can you really blame people for getting excited about something they don't get to see everyday? What if someone spray painted a lace teddy on the statue of liberty? Do you think people would just stay where they are and not want to get to see it with their own eyes?

I do not know the effort involved, but I would love to see many... um... storylines going on... for lack of a better way to of describing the idea. Have a handful of NPCs to support the actions... temporary quests... enough small things pulled together to get everyone involved. Have it last, even when GMs are not around to run it personally, for a few weeks... and determine the outcome (long-term change) based on player response...

But just sitting back complaining, without offering *constructive* criticism or ideas on how to fix it... is just not helping anything. And it isn't doing anything for people wanting to take your ideas or concerns seriously, as you seem to just want to gripe.

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #128 on: November 12, 2008, 11:05:58 pm »
/fanboy

and gm events fail.

everyone quick come look at me "insert story"

kill kill kill or
watch watch watch

over... reward.

haha i think i helped steal the people away on a gm event once and got yelled at for it.
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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #129 on: November 12, 2008, 11:10:23 pm »
oh yeah... look at you... disrupting an RP event... and bragging about it... how is this helping?

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #130 on: November 12, 2008, 11:13:03 pm »
cuz my rp was better =)

to show that at the time people were already bored with the redundancy of gm events. because they dont pull people in with the great rp and storyline and action.

The reason for that is, a lot of people surround the GM, roleplayer or not, thinking they'll get a reward by participating. That isn't really the proper message to convey, as seen in many events.

had a good point there

Gm events fail... but gm participation in others rp events win. they can decide if the rp is valid and worth helping out to increase the fun.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2008, 11:15:18 pm by Coneitic »
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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #131 on: November 12, 2008, 11:17:14 pm »
That is one motivation for people showing up... but most of the people I have run into in-game barely know what a GM is, let alone know that there might be a reward if one is seen moving around Y'liakum. The only event that I have seen or participated in was this Halloween, and it was a lot of fun. Don't know what events you have been around to come to the conclusions you have, but lead, follow, or get out of the way... just don't sit around complaining.

[EDIT] For the record, outside of getting to run around as a Maulbernaut for a couple of hours... and try an obstacle course in the DR... I got no "reward" for being involved in the event.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2008, 11:18:47 pm by Mythryndel »

Coneitic

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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #132 on: November 12, 2008, 11:42:08 pm »
lolz cuz thats not a reward. and i dont sit around complaining i try to get an rp going that will draw the attention away. im sure UTM likes a little competition =)

tho i have never really been good at coming up with a great story backround before an rp. i did seem to master a spontaneous rp that drew a big crowd whenever i tried.

again who you know had laanx talk to them =)
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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #133 on: November 12, 2008, 11:49:01 pm »
cuz my rp was better =)

to show that at the time people were already bored with the redundancy of gm events. because they dont pull people in with the great rp and storyline and action.

The reason for that is, a lot of people surround the GM, roleplayer or not, thinking they'll get a reward by participating. That isn't really the proper message to convey, as seen in many events.

had a good point there

Gm events fail... but gm participation in others rp events win. they can decide if the rp is valid and worth helping out to increase the fun.

If you don't want to participate in a GM event, please don't. If you decide to become disruptive you will be dealt with accordingly. And if you decide to be a jerk, you will be ignored.


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Re: Roleplay Dismay No Way!!!
« Reply #134 on: November 12, 2008, 11:56:37 pm »
dont discourage my rp because its better than yours.

if your doing a gm event and my little rp event on the other side of the plaza is more exciting and attracting your crowd... dont you get mad, come join in too.

i wont /ignore you

even if you /cry
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