If your role play glosses over your sources of income and you use imaginary funds amongst yourselves how can you expect to gain the concrete trappings that come from it?
I think that sums the dialema up perfectly Prolix.
RPers want to stand around and RP social roles, but they never (with a few limited exceptions) seem to put value in RPing an actual occupation. I know someone will come back and say "Well, My character doesn't want to be a miner or a blacksmith!". Well tough, if the only job in your area was a street cleaner and you had to either do that job, or get kicked out of your house for non-payment of your bills, which would you choose?
Still, some of you may approach it as "I don't want to do a days work IRL then come home and work in a computer game." Well, you can try RP that you are doing your PS job while you are logged out, and that you really are quite rich. But you will also end up RPing that lovely guild house you own. If you do one, you do the other.
I totally agree. After roleplaying an evil char for almost two years, the amount of trias I got by this way was about... not more than probably 100k?
I summarise: If you want a guild house, powermine. It is simple, sad but true.
Shaman, If you are not earning from your RPed proffessions, then don't look to the Devs and GMs to blame, look to the other players who are refusing to pay you a decent wage for your services, whatever they may be.
What makes a person commit crimes? They get more money from it than respecting them. Decent wages per robbery then would be several millions to justify them, because otherwise it would be much easier to mine for the same time period *without* risking banishment or permadeath. So what is the continuation? There do not exist criminals in Yliakum, or if they do, they are very stupid because they should know better that crime does not pay off.
The last auctions took place a good while back and since then many guilds have been saving up. We expect the guildhouses to be sold for high amounts of trias.
So why set a minimum price at all?
And even when a house gets sold for 1.6 million, what's the problem with that? It's how the market works, and at least every guild will have a chance to take part in the auctions.
With these reserve prices, I wouldn't be surprised if half of the houses won't be sold at all.
Exactly, if they would be sold all for more than the reserve prices, that would be another issue.
They already own a three-story house in Ojaveda.
Seems the house is already full with stuff...
I Think GM team can borrow trias to the old Roleplayers guilds ( like the "way of life"), then the guild will pay each month !
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A possible solution. I would not do this, because my guild members would stop roleplaying and spend the rest of their RP lifes at the mine.
As an alternative, these prices could be set much lower and something else could be used to determine the guild that gains the house: a tournament, a race, a competition of some sort...what about a literary competition, bring your best ballads and poems!
I like the idea. For example, my char is the winner of the Octarch's tournament:
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=33617.0Doesn't the Octarch's champion get a price reduction? Can he give the champion's sword for a house?
We can also look at it this way:
Not everyone has to RP but everyone must mine.
Nothing more to say here. This should be added to the rules and even better also to the tutorial. Maybe the new players should enter the mine directly after having the tutorial completed.
Whoa, a lot of criticism above, now something more constructive:
Some suggestions:
- My char Orgonwukh only visited one guild house sofar (the Felines Lair, and Haraun already regrets that
). I know it is a bad idea to invite this char, but I wonder if most of the houses are used for storing items? If yes, why not sell silos at the Gugrontid mines instead? There is a lot of space, and the way from mine/furnace to the silos would be very short, too. - Why not give guilds who were active since more than one year a house for free or a low price?
- Why not sell houses for low prices with some commitments (IC and/or OOC ones)? Like:
- [OOC]Always logging to advisor channel
- [OOC]Doing player events monthly
- [IC]Organising a market for the Octarch's honor once a month
- [IC]Helping new people in Yliakum. Explain the laws to them. Show them around. Give them some tria/weapons.
- [IC]Organising a tournament once a month
- [IC]Create and manage a public library
...just to name a few ideas...
