Wipe y/n?

[Morla Phlint]

Just came across this thread (with the help of a friend  ). It's interesting how the tables have turned (at least poll-wise).

Old wipe thread

[Rigwyn]

I have to vote in order to see the results ( hope it did not get counted in.. here are the results )
Very different from current numbers:

Old Poll

Question:      Do you think we should wipe the characters?
Yes!    - 89 (37.1%)
No.    - 151 (62.9%)
   
Total Voters: 239

New Poll:

Question:      Do you think we're ready for a wipe?
Yes    - 116 (53.7%)
No    - 100 (46.3%)
   
Total Voters: 216

[Aiwendil]

LOL, okay, I will stay with the small, more personal wipe solution to get rid of most players who have an account on the wrong server...the /ignore command. Solves database issues for me pretty well...no need to play with over-trained chars, no matter if they got the money through bugs or just years of endless, boring mining to pwn some newbies.

[Mythryndel]

Laanx... wipe... *shrugs*. I've been through the arguments in numerous other threads months ago... if it has to happen, it has to happen.

So, my real concern... what is the status of the EzPC server? I know it is down for limited testing or whatever right now, but is player data being preserved there for players that switched from laanx just a few months ago? I, mostly, left my laanx account behind... and moved to the new server, but if the EzPC server is to be included in a wipe in the near future, it would feel like a real slap in the face. There was much gnashing of teeth over who should move and start over, but in the end we were all told that the new server would start clean to remove all the old cruft and bugs/corruption in the laanx databases. If the argument is again about bugs/corruption, how much of that can be introduced in a single release with a few hundred accounts?

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I am NOT reading through 22 pages of player rants to verify it... but if a wipe takes place, it would be appreciated in the extreme, if placeholders could be saved for character names. Re-register or login with the same e-mail account and you can resurrect your old characters for XX days after the wipe.

Well... that is my 2 trias... take it for what it is worth.

[Morla Phlint]

what is the status of the EzPC server? I know it is down for limited testing or whatever right now, but is player data being preserved there for players that switched from laanx just a few months ago?

Ezpcusa has Laanx Data for the test period.

Not sure how long the test period will last. A test server isn't a safe heaven 

[PhoenixRizin]

I read an old topic where players who did not favor a wipe explained what conditions had to be met to favor one. This is related to the topic mentioned where most were against the wipe. I bring it up again because since the voting is MUCH closer this time (mostly in favor of one) i think it be good to some up what has to be done to make a wipe as accepted as it used to be chided. I also want to stick to the same format of "if X happens then I will be in favor of a full wipe". I'm sure the reasons have been brought up many times but since the thread has lost its way a bit in the middle now is a good time to bring it together.

So for me...

If player/guild names could be reserved somehow on their current accounts, and if on character creation players got a much higher start in their areas of specialization, then I would favor a full wipe.

I think the way char creation distributes is fine, just that those stats should start higher, like around 10 or 15.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Mocking the poll is pretty low-brow.

The problems with the DB are HUGE, we wouldn't even consider it if not so. We simply don't have everything in place that we OR the players would like to have in place before a wipe and don't want to wipe a bunch of times if we can help it.

We tell you we'll be forestalling a wipe in your best interest and you try to burn us over it....

Awesome!

[Mythryndel]

@Moria: I know that there was supposed to be more "testing" being done on EzPC, but the argument could easily be made that laanx is a "test" server as well since the game is still not really close to a 1.0 release. The server split was announced largely  to stop the squabbling between the so-called RPers and PLers. I admit that I haven't been around for a few months now, RL got in the way. But if the so-called PLers are being dismissed as inconsequential and the home they were told to go to is truly just a developer sandbox to be taken away at will... well... to say that is disappointing would be an understatement.

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

We'll make determinations about whether to restore ezpcusa after the testing period. No reason to concern yourself just yet.

[Mordaan]

The problems with the DB are HUGE, we wouldn't even consider it if not so. We simply don't have everything in place that we OR the players would like to have in place before a wipe and don't want to wipe a bunch of times if we can help it.

So basically, Hitancrias was right on the mark...

If there has to be a wipe, I just hope the devs carefully prepare for it so they take maximum advantage of it.

Not everything that can take full advantage of a wipe is in place yet so we wait until it is..

[Morla Phlint]

@Mythryndel:

It is not going to take the place of laanx.fragnetics.com; instead it is going to provide us with a great place to run trials of new features and get feedback. If these features function well and don't disturb the flow of RP, they will then be added to laanx.

http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34607.msg397879#msg397879

Btw it's Morla, not Morila, Morlia, Moria, etc.

[Odz]

Zzzzzzzzzz...

[verden]

Waiting a little bit makes sense, since other things need to be in place before it can be truly useful to the system. Everybody can breath again, the little icons will be where you expect them to be for a while longer. But one day... The Cleansing. *cough*

[Xillix Queen of Fools]

Hitancrias, Verden, and many others made comments of that nature. We broached the topic specifically to hear how the players felt and what the level of patience with wipes would be.

I don't see what benefit comes from pointing out right and wrong in the debate. Inasmuch as everyone expressed how they felt and made their vote and reasons for it clear, everyone was right.

An important point here is that we will in fact prepare the needed metrics to gain value from a wipe and it will happen. The more folks grow comfortable with the idea, the less stress they'll have in their testing/playing experience.

Now on to other matters.

[Vakachehk]

I vote for there to be no wipe unless this is going to be the last wipe ever in PS!