exhaustion

[Liquify]

Im not saying they have it forever it doesnt have to be 2 weeks possibly just the first day...

Have you ever played WoW? As a Hord? In durotar the newbies start in an area (like the tutorial) and do quests to understand how to play and there is easy mobs to kill.  But that area is called The Valley of Trials and a noob could just walk out of that place but would die 2 minutes later.
And yes i do pay well no my brother bort me my last payment. And is that any of your buisness?

First of all, why would you compare Planeshift with WoW. Planeshift if a free (Unfinished) game.  Anyways, I haven't ever played WoW, because i think paying for a game is rediculous when there is plenty of free ones out there.  I not only play Planeshift, but i also play Perfect world international.  Why is Planeshift a great game?  Well let me ask you this, can you find roleplay in your 'WoW'? I think not. 

Yes PS is free but it still should be a good and easier game to play. Or it will become dead like its begining to. Because everyone is saying its free blah blah blah so everyone else is going ok then ill pay for WoW instead of being like ohh PS is so good to me i think ill give them a donation. I know a player who can play PS but isnt playing much anymore.

PS needs to realises they are in competition with MMOs like WoW. Yes our devs are volinteers and working hard after work and good on them!

Its also an idea for the future doesnt have to be in NOW.

This doesn't seem like an 'idea' to me, it sounds like pure "whining".

[Vakachehk]

Haha lol you think im whining? No your wronge im trying to sugest an idea. And back it up. You cant tell by a persons tone of voice by reading what they wrote...

Lol Sarras my OOC life has nothing to do with you. Why is me paying for WoW any of your buisness? And like i said 2 weeks or 1 day or whatever mean maybe just 1 hour or maybe 500 years.

No no no.... If a noob never gets exhusted it means that someone still needs to lead them to a city/location but not wait every 1 minute. (when i first started playing i had to rest 9 time going from oja to the platinum mine.)

They are not going to be fully maxed!!
Basicly they are like oldbies for 1 day OR SO. And yes they can get to train. If you have a sword of laanx mind can you still train Dark Way? It will be like that. Also think abit they will be told by a tutorial NPC that it will only last for Hours/days/weeks/years and that they can still train.

[Sarras Volcae]

Lol Sarras my OOC life has nothing to do with you. Why is me paying for WoW any of your buisness? And like i said 2 weeks or 1 day or whatever mean maybe just 1 hour or maybe 500 years.

this is what i mean by dense

No no no.... If a noob never gets exhusted it means that someone still needs to lead them to a city/location but not wait every 1 minute. (when i first started playing i had to rest 9 time going from oja to the platinum mine.)

maybe you should level up? when i was a noob, i mostly figured everything out by myself and rarely had to rest.

They are not going to be fully maxed!!

does it matter? they shouldn't be maxed at all

Basicly they are like oldbies for 1 day OR SO.

i think you mean maxed players, not oldbies

And yes they can get to train. If you have a sword of laanx mind can you still train Dark Way? It will be like that. Also think abit they will be told by a tutorial NPC that it will only last for Hours/days/weeks/years and that they can still train.

no clue what you're saying

[Vakachehk]

Me talking about you puting your nose in my life is not dense its called trying to have privacey.

Lol Id prob waste you in a duel!

Ohhh learn to read
if you have a sword of Laanx Mind (boosts Dark Way by 20) if you have it out in your hand, you can still lvl up in Dark Way. So my idea is like that other than you dont have a sword.

[Sarras Volcae]

you can't detect sarcasm

you may waste me in a duel, considering the game is too laggy for me to play and i'm physically handicapped. unless you're as nooby as you act.

i see what you mean now, but i still think it's a bad idea. it might sound fun to you. i don't think it sounds fun. it sounds pretty dumb actually. i'd rather start out like a noob with no skills and go through the process of gaining them.

[Athrani]

Im not saying they have it forever it doesnt have to be 2 weeks possibly just the first day...

Have you ever played WoW? As a Hord? In durotar the newbies start in an area (like the tutorial) and do quests to understand how to play and there is easy mobs to kill.  But that area is called The Valley of Trials and a noob could just walk out of that place but would die 2 minutes later.
And yes i do pay well no my brother bort me my last payment. And is that any of your buisness?

Yes PS is free but it still should be a good and easier game to play. Or it will become dead like its begining to. Because everyone is saying its free blah blah blah so everyone else is going ok then ill pay for WoW instead of being like ohh PS is so good to me i think ill give them a donation. I know a player who can play PS but isnt playing much anymore.

PS needs to realises they are in competition with MMOs like WoW. Yes our devs are volinteers and working hard after work and good on them!

Its also an idea for the future doesnt have to be in NOW.

im afraid we were getting a bit off topic with this.
Firstly hello i am athrani.
Secondly , the whole reason i think that what you are saying will not be taken on board is because we dont want to be like wow.
This game was made by people (geniuses, may i add) in their spare time, and im afraid to say, that unless they hired a full team of developers they would never catch up with WoW.
This is why i am most sure the developers are not trying to become like WoW and are trying a whole different route entirely, which is why i dont expect any references to what happens in WoW to be anything valuable to this game.

On the exhaustion side of things, it would be good if they coould implement (if they are not there already) energy potions.

And perhaps, if this may shut vakachehk up, give about 5-10 of them to a new player to explore.
Anyways, thee death realm is fun to explore, and new players should be getting used to it.

[Akkaido Kivikar]

@Liquify: Look up WoW's RP, RPPVP servers, or Conquest of the Horde (a private WoW server with even stricter RP than PS).

I've been playing a bit of WoW. There's a reason 11 million people pay $15USD a month to play that game. Being a commercial project, and such a successful one, I think it's a bit silly to try and say it's inferior, especially considering you've never played it. It kicks Perfect World square in the teeth any day. I'd rather pay to play a great game with complete balancing than a 'free' game like PW. PS is an exception as it has great potential and promise, and is actually free. Let's not confuse 'free' games like PW with -free- games like PS.

As for PS and WoW comparisons, there are actually a few similarities that I've noticed... and since you've never played WoW, how can you tell someone off for noting similarities you yourself could not see?

@Vakachehk: PS has a 'Valley of Trials' area, it's called tutorial. It's better than before, with the new questing system.

About exhaustion: Quit complaining and visit a strength trainer, or endurance. People DO get exhausted walking with backpacks weighing the same as a full PS inventory. If you get tired on an empty inventory, that's because your character is WEAK. Train a bit, or RP that you're a weakling.

@Athrani: "Energy Potions" sound good, like having a quick Red Bull / Lift+ / V / Guarana based energy drink on the road.

[bloodedIrishman]

@Liquify: Look up WoW's RP, RPPVP servers, or Conquest of the Horde (a private WoW server with even stricter RP than PS).

Yes it's a good roleplay server, I fit in quite nicely there. Unfortunately they only keep their roleplay to near perfection with small numbers to look after.

@Athrani: "Energy Potions" sound good, like having a quick Red Bull / Lift+ / V / Guarana based energy drink on the road.

Don't forget to include the crash and jitters.  

[Liquify]

Haha lol you think im whining? No your wronge im trying to sugest an idea. And back it up. You cant tell by a persons tone of voice by reading what they wrote...

Actually you can tell by what you wrote. You're not suggesting a thing, only complaining about it.  Complaining = whining in my book.

[bloodedIrishman]

Haha lol you think im whining? No your wronge im trying to sugest an idea. And back it up. You cant tell by a persons tone of voice by reading what they wrote...

Actually you can tell by what you wrote. You're not suggesting a thing, only complaining about it.  Complaining = whining in my book.

You are wronge. 

[Akkaido Kivikar]

Somebody should lock this thread, a reasonable solution (energy potion) has been found and now everyone's just flame-warring.

[Liquify]

You are wronge. 

First of all, that's not how you spell wrong. Second of all, how can i be wrong in my own book? 

[Vakachehk]

Thank you! Energy potions someone came with an idea not a complaint!

@Akaiddo its very hard to train Stats when you only get 1 PP per trepor?

Im not complaining why would i complain if i have ALL my stats maxed?? The only one complaining is you not coming up with a solution to my idea.

Note: i only wanted some ideas but it seems everyone is against it oviously the only guild/clan worth joining is Kore Irka Clan since we care about the new players in PlaneShift.

[bloodedIrishman]

You are wronge. 

First of all, that's not how you spell wrong. Second of all, how can i be wrong in my own book? 

I was making a joke. 

Thank you! Energy potions someone came with an idea not a complaint!

@Akaiddo its very hard to train Stats when you only get 1 PP per trepor?

Im not complaining why would i complain if i have ALL my stats maxed?? The only one complaining is you not coming up with a solution to my idea.

Exactly. Why would I complain about not having the ring icon under my forum username if I have the house? The only one complaining about that is the GM who wont give me it.

 

[weltall]

Thank you! Energy potions someone came with an idea not a complaint!

@Akaiddo its very hard to train Stats when you only get 1 PP per trepor?

Im not complaining why would i complain if i have ALL my stats maxed?? The only one complaining is you not coming up with a solution to my idea.

Note: i only wanted some ideas but it seems everyone is against it oviously the only guild/clan worth joining is Kore Irka Clan since we care about the new players in PlaneShift.

you get 1pp per trepor because they are too easy for your char. i've never seen someone trying to play on the first area of a game even offline and hoping to get the same experience of that area full of dragons able to kill your party in 2 turns. seriously... fixed pp were really unequilibrate: it's either the exp requirement per pp increases or the pp per kill decreases. Then sure the training requirements must be equilibrated too but that's another fact, and as stated above no one is supposed to be maxed in everything and only training takes away everything from this game