need advice

[Sarras Volcae]

Be happy you don't live in a pseudo-socialistic (like the former GDR) or pseudo-communistic (like the current China) country. Those systems will tell you even more nonsense and premade opinions.

this is exactly what i'm trying to tell my teacher. i've even been to freakin china. i've seen some of the crap going on there. my teacher does not understand what it is like to live under those conditions. even i don't fully understand it, but i'm at least able to appreciate that my country isn't full of bs and poverty.

this is something i've slowly begun to realize. it's impossible for anyone--meaning anyone--to gain any kind of appreciation for something they've always lived with, until they've experienced a complete lack of what they take for granted. you can be the wealthiest man alive with the most degrees and certifications and all that, but you can still be an ignorant, oblivious, utterly naive idiot.

lol, i'm just ranting now 

[Prolix]

i'm at least able to appreciate that my country isn't full of bs and poverty.

What the heck country do you live in? Doesn't sound like any I ever heard of. Maybe you ought to look around on the wrong side of the tracks sometime.

[neko kyouran]

Prolix, look up Sealand.  They have no poverty in that country.  ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand

[Sarras Volcae]

i'm at least able to appreciate that my country isn't full of bs and poverty.

What the heck country do you live in? Doesn't sound like any I ever heard of. Maybe you ought to look around on the wrong side of the tracks sometime.

the usa isn't full of poverty. sure there's some, but no, it's not full of it.

[Timmothy Perriwinkle]

Ima say you go to a village in africa, where everyone is struggling to have enough food and water to eat and there'll be a lot less bs than in America.

[bloodedIrishman]

Ima say you go to a village in africa, where everyone is struggling to have enough food and water to eat and there'll be a lot less bs than in America.

Indeed.
Conversation between two american brats

Brat #1 "My moms a total #&#& for not buying me a XBOX!"
Brat #2 "Dude I know my mom wont even buy me call of duty the day it came out"
Brat #1 "Im so tired of their crap"
Brat #2 "Yeah they are so full of it"

That's common thoroughfare between american children. An example of unnecessary bull in the US.

i'm at least able to appreciate that my country isn't full of bs and poverty.

What the heck country do you live in? Doesn't sound like any I ever heard of. Maybe you ought to look around on the wrong side of the tracks sometime.

the usa isn't full of poverty. sure there's some, but no, it's not full of it.

By far, and without question the inhabitants of the US receive more opportunity than anyone else. They are blessed with comforts few have around the world.

[Prolix]

Poverty is a relative thing. Minimum wage where I live ($9.50/hour) is below the poverty line but many people, particularly immigrants can't find a better paying job. A lot of places in the world that kind of pay would make you quite well off but the cost of living in those places is significantly lower. The way the economy has been going all the fantastic new jobs governments claim are being created from bank and industry bailouts are at the bottom end of the pay scale and the bosses are making out like bandits. Utter BS. America is different from a lot of the world because there was a substantial middle class but it has been under assault for years.

Claiming special perspective because your daddy could afford to take you to China (for the Olympics?) wouldn't mean much to someone who can't afford to go further than the city limits. For every one person that makes it out of the poverty trap there are dozens more who do not.

All the same good luck whatever you end up doing, getting an education of whatever kind is probably your best bet and as you get older you may find your views changing.

[Sarras Volcae]

prolix, because i think online arguing is weak and you obviously don't know anything about me, i'm not responding to your post. but i will tell you to reread my posts since it looks like you didn't really get them.

[Thoss]

here is a bit of a view that has been settling in with me....perhaps since I am on the "dark side" now...

School is more than just being taught information. It's more than being taught the correct information. School...Mainly highschool and college, is more like long test or right of passage. The main question is: "Did they make it?" i.e. survive the challenges successfully. "Challenges" are the main. Challenges with teachers, challenges with peers, challenges with temptations...etc...etc

It is an environment to test one's ability to manage complex and often conflicting circumstances. Especially in college the question is: "Was the student able to successful navigate the curriculum.  We set out some cantankerous instructors and shady information...and the bars are open all night....how did they deal with it...etc.

It's a reflection of how prepared one is for a future job. Corporate world....is basically highschool and you need to have been a smooth operator in highschool do mesh well with it.

Very independent? Confident? Bit rebelleous.... this will point towards the performing arts, or perhaps medical... (basically work on your own and get things done your own way.)

stuff like that.

To put my geek hat on. Treat school as a quest, and beat them all at their silly little game.
 

[Timmothy Perriwinkle]

i think online arguing is weak and you obviously don't know anything about me

Nice retort. So when you said 'need advice' you actually meant, "don't disagree with me, because you know nothing about me and online arguments are weak, so screw off".

Productive.

[Joale]

Get your thoughts on whatever the matter is, and just call her out in class.

No rule against that.. as long as you don't start cussing, throwing crap, and screaming.

[Prolix]

Now now T.P. no need to get huffy.

It is true I know little about Sarras. I think she is a young woman in the later years of High School. I also think that she comes from the upper middle class, possibly a diplomat's child. At any rate I did read all the posts and perhaps disagree on the meanings of what has been said particularly "full of poverty". You never have to go very far in America to see a poor person, it could be the pan handler or it could be the scullery maid or native on the reservation. Certainly the top 5% own 95% of everything and that doesn't leave much for anyone else.

I think she is looking at the veneer and saying "what a fine piece of furniture" not realizing that is is just made of particle board. There are a lot of good people in America, some of them are my relatives but the people in power are not so wholesome whatever image they project.

One only has to look at the plethora of crap available on television to see American indoctrination in action. It is more subtle than the commies were but it is just as prevalent. In fact I would say it is more pervasive due to the easy availability of cultural instruments such as radios and televisions. The newspapers are getting more homogeneous every day and the wealthy drown out dissenting views reflexively

But hey, follow the yellow brick road and you will come to the emerald city, okay?.

[steuben]

* steuben followed the yellow brick road until he saw the dog.

but high school is the time in which you learn 2 things.
1. the stuff you need to know.
2. the basics

what you don't learn in high school
1. that it is just the basics
2. how to use the information
3. a long list of other practical suff judging by the calls that i take everyday

the above though assumes you're not going into the trades.  in which you learn the basics, and that it is just the basics.

because there are the four stages of university
1. thinking you know everything
2. thinking you know something
3. thinking you know precious little
4. knowing you know precious little, but know how and where to find the answer
5. profit!

[Timmothy Perriwinkle]

4. knowing you know precious little, but know how and where to find the answer
5. profit!

You forgot ??

[Sarras Volcae]

It is true I know little about Sarras. I think she is a young woman in the later years of High School. I also think that she comes from the upper middle class, possibly a diplomat's child.

you got the first 2 right

At any rate I did read all the posts and perhaps disagree on the meanings of what has been said particularly "full of poverty". You never have to go very far in America to see a poor person, it could be the pan handler or it could be the scullery maid or native on the reservation. Certainly the top 5% own 95% of everything and that doesn't leave much for anyone else.

never said there wasn't poverty, but in the us the extent of poverty isn't so bad. if you think those are the bottom of society, you don't know p00p (lol). there's a lot worse than that. and, believe it or not, if most of those poor americans actually tried to "pursue happiness" they'd be a lot better off. they get themselves into that situation. i may sound rude, but that's the hard reality.