[GUILD] Oblivion (Not yet done)

[Gegnir]

Ifs perfectly fine to be evil, lawless or chaotic. Its just much more difficult to play such character
WHILE KEEPING GOOD OOC relationships with other players.

Edit: Corrected typo - changed "able" to "unable"

Well actually that is why there are so less bad guys and so many lawful and neutral people.

[Akkaido Kivikar]

I think it's perfectly fine to be lawless or evil... but as a PS player I find the whole chaos style of play is either abused by people who don't care for RP, or it leads to guilds falling into that trend, or it's just used as a cheap "I/my guild/We don't align with anything/anyone, and are completely seperate, above the law because OOC there's not enough enforcement."

[Sarras Volcae]

Ifs perfectly fine to be evil, lawless or chaotic. Its just much more difficult to play such character
WHILE KEEPING GOOD OOC relationships with other players.

Edit: Corrected typo - changed "able" to "unable"

Well actually that is why there are so less bad guys and so many lawful and neutral people.

OBJECTION!

i'm pretty sure most players lean toward the bad or unlawful side. when i started playing i didn't notice, but you'd be surprised.

[Gegnir]

"I/my guild/We don't align with anything/anyone, and are completely seperate, above the law because OOC there's not enough enforcement."

Ah.. but I did not state that we kill everyone that does not align with us. They are just considered as a threat. There certainly is not one sentenced that we wish for world somination

[Akkaido Kivikar]

Sarras you're rather wrong.

Some of the largest guilds include The Warriors, completely law abiding. Your old guild The Brigade was law abiding. Rangers of Yliakum, law abiding. Kore Irka Clan, House Cheshire, Akkaio Setha Clan, Royal House of Purrty and many many more roleplaying guilds are all law abiding.

Roleplayers generally are law abiding or not, not some "chaotic" persuasion. Even if someone breaks the law, if they act in accordance with acceptance of the consequences, they are lawful and not chaotic, in my opinion. Ie if Rigwyn kills you in a dark alley where no one can see you, after hours of tracking you and waiting for the moment where no one could see... it's lawful. He accepts the law and it's consequences, but works around it to break it where he cannot be seen.

Chaotics do whatever anywhere anytime with no regard for the consequences. It's the general idea of Chaos.

By Chaotics, I mean the average PS chaotic player. Hence, I don't suggest aligning in that manner as it is well known to be a cesspit of OOC and bad roleplay.

[Rigwyn]

Evil and Chaotic are very different things.

Here's a good resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_&_Dragons)

Appologies, this is getting off topic.

[Gegnir]

Evil and Chaotic are very different things.

Here's a good resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_&_Dragons)

Appologies, this is getting off topic.

Well in that case we are chaotic good.

[Akkaido Kivikar]

"On the downside, chaos can include recklessness, resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary actions, and irresponsibility."

Pretty much my case and point.

[Zon]

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[Sarras Volcae]

Some of the largest guilds include The Warriors, completely law abiding. Your old guild The Brigade was law abiding. Rangers of Yliakum, law abiding. Kore Irka Clan, House Cheshire, Akkaio Setha Clan, Royal House of Purrty and many many more roleplaying guilds are all law abiding.

no, they aren't. look closer.

Roleplayers generally are law abiding or not, not some "chaotic" persuasion. Even if someone breaks the law, if they act in accordance with acceptance of the consequences, they are lawful and not chaotic, in my opinion. Ie if Rigwyn kills you in a dark alley where no one can see you, after hours of tracking you and waiting for the moment where no one could see... it's lawful. He accepts the law and it's consequences, but works around it to break it where he cannot be seen.

chaotic characters are generally, if not always, law breakers. please don't bother with semantics. and it's not an opinion. i refuse to argue with you btw, i don't like arguing with people who believe everything is justified by opinion.

[Akkaido Kivikar]

A chaotic character doesn't break the law if there is no personal reason to do so.

Unless he's choatic in the sense where he has no control of himself and does insanely unjustified things in the name of being chaotic.... which is how PS chaoric chars seem to degrade to.

[Rigwyn]

By Chaotics, I mean the average PS chaotic player. Hence, I don't suggest aligning in that manner as it is well known to be a cesspit of OOC and bad roleplay.

There are some very good players who play chaotic characters. It all depends on the player.
Pick a character that you think you'll enjoy playing ( regardless of what others say )  and go with it.
Rp your consequences and handicaps, be true to your character, and be nice OOCly.

[ravenrise]

This is why I love these forums. Its the only place we can get this far off topic without some random person shouting "WHY THE F*** R U GUYS SO OFF TOPIC!?!?!?!"
Isn't it great?

With that being said I have to agree with Akkaido about lawful vs chaotic. Just by accepting that laws exist you have committed yourself to the lawful side of things. Just because you don't follow them doesn't mean they aren't there. Personally I know very few people who would play chaotic characters, and just for that reason I hope this guild works. Since you would have to be oblivious to not realize the laws in any way it kind of fits that Oblivion would be one of the first fully chaotic guilds to survie doesn't it?