Lurker Trolls

[bilbous]

Speaking of the rp/!rp server divide they should just have player adjustable skill/stat levels on the RP server and  keep the base training system on the EZPC. Set your abilities to whatever you want for role-play and grind for non role-play.

Of course people will abuse any system you can devise but the real role players will keep their character's abilities according to their intended roles.  Abusers will set them all max or change them arbitrarily whenever they feel like it.

[Illysia]

I'm surprised that people still believe that the development is the source of the bulk of the discontent. People will forgive the mechanics faults and lack of graphics of a game they love. Think about all the old text only and DOS games that are still actively played. A good game, even half developed can still hold it's own with other games. PS's problem is that the mindset for guiding it isn't well suited to actually keeping it in the range necessary to get most people that hang around to overlook most things.

@Bilbous: I say move the RPers over to the other server as they are the only ones likely to be unhappy enough to actually switch servers. XD

[Aiwendil]

Please wipe ezpcusa and make it the RP server. Nearly nobody on laanx cares about roleplay at all anymore. So leave them their precious skills and give the Roleplayers a safe place again. And yes...it will take much longer for Roleplayers to gain some skills, but it's still better than the current situation on Laanx.

Sorry Aiwendil, but I have to disagree...  One I did all the training I can stand to do years ago before I started RPing... I will not be going through that again.  Two, Laanx is our server, if anything we should take it back.  I say if the rules of the server aren't being followed, make petitions. Sometimes it's not about the speed with which a problem is dealt with but that it is dealt with some how. If we give up on working with it, the problem will get worse. If necessary I will test the limits of how many petitions one person can submit. If the rules of the sever aren't followed, I will most definitely comment on it. 

Sorry...couldn't resist Illysia .

But yes..that is what I meant  in my long post when I said that that you only get replies of people either not able to understand what you mean or not bothering to read what you say. The game mechanics, improvements in gameplay or new artwork were never a problem for me. I hadn't played PS for such a long time if they were. The consequences and how to deal with them were what I wanted to discuss. But it always boiled down again to dumb "You don't like the new stuff...then go and play on IRC."

And I think Bilbous suggestion is a good one for a RP server. Also almost all items should be made easily available on a RP server.

[Phage]

I thought the account names already stand for the summery:

Aiwendil: Go and play another game.
Irishman: Nothing to see here...just trolling.
Illysia: Bitter oldbie who has no clue.
Talad: Just some hatred against random people.
Weltall: Everything is fine because....
LigH: Lets all be friends.
Zanzibar: Look at my post count and then ask again if I have something important to say.
Neko: Play, kids, play...
...

If I wouldnt know those accounts already I would be grateful, but since I do: Good summary there! Although.. aw hey, Illysia is lovely, although I was a amazed now and then by her latent rudeness!=P

I liked that one long post of yours. To me it read like an in-depth reflection without grudge, and I found my own view on all the things in it. For me, there is nothing left to say. I stopped playing because of right the points you mentioned, less and less I check these forums here (lucky me I checked right when you posted that) hoping to find the changes I would like to see, but I see a development which is not to my liking.

One note on Xeonart: I had seen that char quite a few times in the arena, striving to back up the claimed sword skills!
But hey.. Order of the Dagger?xD

[bilbous]

I'm just glad I didn't make the list I'm furiously lurking here and my wars with Zanzibar were up on the hotplate for quite a while. Annoying as they were to everyone they were more entertaining to me than blah, blah, blah.

[PhoenixRizin]

I just read the long post, and thought it was a great read. I often find myself as one of the 'stats to back up rp' crowd, as when it comes to things like smithing, if I said I could make something, I had the compulsion to actually do it. It didn't stop me from RPing a certain way from the start, but rather made me choose which stats to work for (or ask of Xiosia XD). Allowing players on the RP server to allocate their own stats sounds interesting...perhaps there can be a way to give only a certain amount of points, so only x stats out of y could possibly be maxed, while still allocating points to others. That or start with one fighting or magic stat maxed and one profession, then grind from there.

*post kept short due to the Twitter/Text Message era*

[Illysia]

@Aiwe: Well of course I said that then... I PLed cooking if nothing else. I sure wasn't trying to do that again. :p part of the reason I don't spend so much time having exact stats to back RP.... I was cooking long before it was implemented and I only needed enough to make everything in the book. But since I don't have to run the Stonehead, if I had to go back to PS for some odd reason, I wouldn't care at all.

@Phage: I blame Lhaa. Be sure to tell him that Aiwe. (oh and btw, you can't blame Lhaa for anything as that is my job. If you don't believe me, just ask him) If you'll recall, I didn't start speaking out against things before Lhaa's encouragement to do so. But in his defense, he was right. Being quiet and never saying anything never got the really irritating, necessary stuff worked out so there you go... Not that it has changed now but at least people heard me when I said things more harshly. No one can truly claim ignorance, they can only claim stubbornly maintaining status quo.


@taphan: I almost agree, but the problem is less the quality of RP and more the ability to distinguish between OOC and IC. But I noticed that more newer players seemed to miss the fact that the forum is inherently OOC. But I can't blame them as I'd say at least 70% of the Devs no longer realize this either. I.e. why an in game bulletin was of so low a priority... nevermind that IC things should be IG.


@PhoenixRizin: You played Samsonus? :O No wonder I never saw much of him, but it seems the old standard holds… Any good RPer you come across is likely someone you already know. Shame though as it would have been fun to have had him around  Tel more… C’est la vie… *shrugs*

[novacadian]

Allowing players on the RP server to allocate their own stats sounds interesting...

This thread is great! 

One easy stop for all the trolling laughs one could want. Nice one Irish! 

 

[bloodedIrishman]

While not my best attempt to help the forum people, I did realize It's out of my control. Best to let change happen with the mods and admins.

[Illysia]

Not likely to happen until Neko is made a mod of the complaint department. Most issues start there and all the mods for it are rarely around to watch it.

[Aiwendil]

But hey.. Order of the Dagger?xD

Hehe...was just the first OOC drama that came to my mind. The others I could think of like the auction of the Purrty house by Donari, the EL guild house robbery or the Gugrontid blockade would have only led to a discussion about the definition of OOC drama again.

I'm just glad I didn't make the list I'm furiously lurking here and my wars with Zanzibar were up on the hotplate for quite a while. Annoying as they were to everyone they were more entertaining to me than blah, blah, blah.

bilbous: Obscure reference, quote or rhetoric question.

And Aiwendil, I'm not on your list

Akkaido/Xoel/taphan: My thought on this is....and it's better than yours.

While not my best attempt to help the forum people, I did realize It's out of my control. Best to let change happen with the mods and admins.

Then I apologize for making such a bad trolling post in the first place. I'm deeply sorry that it derailed this thread in such a way. From now on I promise to only make one line posts without any content so that there isn't even the slightest chance of them being taken as trolling.

Okay...I guess I should be more harsh to myself also:
Aiwendil: Just sarcasm that is meant to make people leave the game.

[neko kyouran]

From now on I promise to only make one line posts without any content so that there isn't even the slightest chance of them being taken as trolling.

That's my job, sorry.

[Catlemur]

This thread is useless,stop feeding the trolls.

[Aiwendil]

That's my job, sorry.

So I have to apply as forum mod...and have to be accepted to be allows to only write one-liner? Too bad...but I showed some good will at least ;)

This thread is useless,stop feeding the trolls.

Awww...but then I starve :/

[bloodedIrishman]

Your ego is so big you label yourself "Chieftain"

It is a pseudonym. Do you have a brain? Watch.

Xillix Queen of Fools
Talad
Ares
etc..

you made it as a personal attack at me.

Nothing in there references you. Not personal. You just knew it pertained to you.

I don't care about the rest, it's all blah.