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What type of Karma you want to use on the forums?

Disable the karma function, I already know I have all karma of the universe.
27 (45.8%)
Enable karma with negative and positives but show only the total karma
10 (16.9%)
Enable karma with negative and positives and show 2 numbers: total positive and total negatives
12 (20.3%)
Enable karma with positive only
10 (16.9%)

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Talad

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Karma !!
« on: September 01, 2011, 02:45:32 am »
Hi, we added the Karma function to the forums, please answer the poll. No guarantee that we set it as the result will say! :)

bilbous

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 03:00:32 am »
Total karma can be simply calculated from adding the positive and negative numbers. I voted for the two number system.
I think the karma system might be better if it were applied to specific posts instead of the user but that isn't how the forum software works so what you gonna do. It would also be nice to know which posts generated the karma adjustment but that also is not how it is.

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 04:14:18 am »
Better to keep just the positive karma, IMHO. For this forum, at any rate.

jenideandre

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 07:24:05 am »
Sorry to be dim, but please say what the karma voting is when polling on it.  I figured it out myself from poking around, but it's better to explain for the very few people who might not know.  I voted for both positive and negative karma, I like the idea.

EDIT:  Anyway I tried to take the poll, it's not working for me (chrome on osx snow leopard), not sure if it is the new forum layout or user error.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2011, 07:28:16 am by jenideandre »

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2011, 07:50:18 am »
No Karma at all, please. It only provokes grief and jeaslousy.

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2011, 07:54:29 am »
Please take the function completly off...


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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2011, 11:40:47 am »
No Karma at all, please. It only provokes grief and jeaslousy.

The same reasoning is valid for displaying the number of posts.
In my experience, Karma is an attempt to measure the quality of contributions in forums, and frankly negative karma is frightening.
So If you think there's still something good and useful hiding deeply in this patchwork of nonsense, and you trust members, I suggest to enable only positive karma.
On the other hand, if you think that we are doomed and this is only the beginning of the end, enable also negative karma.
Plus, forum filters I used until now don't work with this version... :innocent: I changed my mind, no Karma is better.

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2011, 11:53:56 am »
Karma will become a tool for trolls to give bad reputation to normal people and believe me the place is swarming with those beasts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBH97ma9YiI&ob=av2e
« Last Edit: September 01, 2011, 11:57:59 am by Catlemur »

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2011, 01:37:00 pm »
I Say keep the karma.  but no bad karma, we all tend to be too negative and do not nead an easy outlet to be a jerk.  ;)

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2011, 02:50:45 pm »
Come on, don't take things too serious.

No Karma at all, please. It only provokes grief and jeaslousy.

I might agree with you if this were a forum about serious topics. But no...people here are discussing about imaginary adventures they had with their imaginary pixel avatars. They are discussing why it should to be allowed to virtually stab someone in the back inside a vertex town with a AI-guard right around the next corner or how they think casting a magic spell should look like and what laws of physic it should break. And now you really want to tell me it causes grief and jealousy if someone doesn't agree with your own vision of fantasy? I maybe would tend to agree with you in case this were a serious forum with opinions about RL topics...but as it is only a forum for spending spare time and having some fun discussing fantasies I really can't.

Every person here is just around for fun...that is true for players and devs. The majority of players doesn't use the forums anyway and those who do share virtual experiences and ideas about a pixel world. You really think with such topics a down-vote of karma hurts someone more than a bashing reply? Wouldn't it be already a gain if someone restrains from bashing another one because he can just [smite] him/her? And really, why take this karma system that serious at all.  If you look at it a high karma only means a boring person who never had any controversial ideas. Start taking the system more in the spirit of a game (after all I still think that is what this forum originally was about). [Smite] the hell out of posters that make hilariously cute anime images from your char, [Applaud] well thought out efforts of others to make fun of you...whatever. [Smite] and [Applaude] in the end mean the same...the poster got attention. Also devs are only here for fun (and the majority of them doesn't read the forums either...what brings up the question of importance of these at all). Nobody is forced to contribute to this project...but it's fun to do so. If you really care more about what others think about yourself than the fun the coding/modeling/writing gives you it's maybe time to think about changing to a serious project that really matters. If you contribute for acknowledgment work on projects that give people something of real value like tor. And if you get discouraged by some [smite]s of users get a thicker skin.

So in the end I really can't agree with the karma system making these forums even worse then they are already. If you look at the system from the serious point of view the negative karma might even help to prevent some otherwise much more negative bashing posts. And if you allow yourself to get only slightly less serious this system even offers some nice possibilities for fun...and identifying interesting people by their high amount of [applaud]s and [smite]s.

Karma will become a tool for trolls to give bad reputation to normal people and believe me the place is swarming with those beasts.
As the meaning of "troll" was perverted in these forums to apply to anyone not agreeing with your or the PS team's opinion that's indeed always a chance...But in case we take the original meaning of the term it might be sufficient to only disallow you from using the karma system (So, was that better than a simple [smite] for the post?).


tl;dr: Don't care...nothing important. You need to be able to read anyway to have noticed the karma system in the first place.

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 03:08:39 pm »
I'd like to be able to negative vote the retarded posts. You can keep your positive karma.

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 09:41:35 pm »
most of the users on this forum are too overly sensitive to appreciate the karma feature. it's only going to cause unrest. you know nobody is going to use it maturely. at least 60% of its uses will be for pinning a bad reputation on others to denote them as trolls. less than half of that percentage will be applauds and smites by cliques. then there's 20% for applauding neko until he achieves nirvana. and the remaining 20% (for people who don't play around with it) will drop due to loss of interest.

that's how it always is on forums like these. i can't be the only forum veteran who knows this.  X-/

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 10:43:52 am »
@Aiwendil  You do not deserve a proper reply.

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 11:31:57 am »
her/his/its post was much more informative than yours. if you can't be serious, this isn't the thread for you. this are serious thread.

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Re: Karma !!
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 04:04:20 pm »
I definitely think karma should be disabled. It'd be abused anyway, and our community has well over enough things to create stupid drama over as it is.
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