Stillwater Peace Corps -wrt- Tragic Wedding / RP events

[Aramara Meibi]

making the whole RP rather unrealistic, or matching the state of anarchy where government involvement accounts to nothing.

that IS the perceived state of things, isn't it? But! if that were the case, it'd make sense if the SPC were acting out in an area of governmental neglect, basically forcing a service down our throats that the octarch should have been providing in the first place, a safe mining environment. Once everyone falls in line with the SPC's demands, they'll see that the SPC's endgame is peace under their control.

[Gilrond]

The so called "safe environment" also known as "protection" or "roof" in the criminal slang, is a common racketeers' euphemism. Presence of armed bandits neither makes it really safer, nor helps miners feel any better

I didn't realize that settings assume the state of total anarchy around, and no interest of any officials in resources and etc. I thought it's a technical issue, since engine can't provide any real guard / army / other NPC involvement in any complex activity so far.

[Phantomboy86]

The so called "safe environment" also known as "protection" or "roof" in the criminal slang, is a common racketeers' euphemism. Presence of armed bandits neither makes it really safer, nor helps miners feel any better

I didn't realize that settings assume the state of total anarchy around, and no interest of any officials in resources and etc. I thought it's a technical issue, since engine can't provide any real guard / army / other NPC involvement in any complex activity so far.

Same here, they just dont have enough people to do it manually nor engine power to make an NPC version

[IkonRevisions]

I totally get what people are saying regarding the authorities stepping in to stop what I and the rest of the SPC are doing at the Platinum mine. Before we even started this roleplay we knew that if we pushed our claims too much or for too long on the mine or other areas they would eventually step int to try and dissolve the situation and punish us with jail time.

The fact remains that the GM's are taking a hands off approach on purpose to kind of simulate that our presence has not caused too much of a ripple yet that they feel it is something they need to address and leave it for now in the hands of the many capable citizens that would oppose the will of the SPC. The OOC reason of course is simply because so far they see it as promoting quality group roleplay and is obviously getting people a bit more into the game.

So we treat it as simply an opportunity to exploit this governmental neglect for the "wild" regions of Yliakum and expand our influence and renown be it negative or positive.

-Ikon

[Tessra]

Sarva... You were around for this, so you could probably fill in some knowledge here, but in the past Myysst led some player-army, at the behest of the "Ochtarchy" in a player/GM event, right?  Can you please tell us a bit about that?  I heard Myysst mention it, but wasn't around for it and am thus foggy on the details.

It just seems to me that when the Octarchy gets a belly-full of the evil, smelly SPC, that they would send forth troops [in this case players, or GM characters if they felt so inclined] to shoo them away.  Realistically speaking, there is no way for the Octarchy to patrol and enforce law in every corner of Yliakum.  I'm a bit unclear too Gilrond, as how the PVP area makes this unrealistic?  In a real life scenario, you wouldn't have needed to accept a challenge.  A thug would have simply attacked/killed you at will.  The way I see it, it's 100% more realistic. 

And Jjairr - I read it because I talk to Ikon out of game    I think you'll enjoy it when it goes public.

[Sarva]

Tessra - I'm afraid that event with Myysst was before my time.

I haven't had the chance to talk with the GM team or anyone form settings to figure out what the IC approach to why the Octarch hasn't acted yet or how the Octarch will act when it finally does. Maybe there has been some trouble at some of the Bronze Doors which has drawn most of the available guards away thus the lack of reaction so far. I could possibly see one or two GM run guards with back up from player characters  going out to the mine to clear out the Stillwaters once and for all.  The main thing is that if people are having fun then let people have their fun and worry about the details later. Who knows maybe the Octarch is amused be these pretenders to the throne and is sitting back being entertained before taking SPC out in a very public way, as a lesson to any future pretenders to the throne.  I'm sure someone else wil have some good ideas as well

[Gilrond]

Realistically speaking, there is no way for the Octarchy to patrol and enforce law in every corner of Yliakum.

This case is quite different since it's not just any wild corner of Yliakum, but a strategic and rare resource (for example used for weapon crafting).

I'm a bit unclear too Gilrond, as how the PVP area makes this unrealistic?  In a real life scenario, you wouldn't have needed to accept a challenge.  A thug would have simply attacked/killed you at will.  The way I see it, it's 100% more realistic.

That's exactly the catch. Pvp zone is more realistic in itself, because it removes artificial restrictions, but I was saying that it's inconsistent in comparison with other mines, because only this one has such conditions. This kind of inconsistency causes other unrealistic side effects (simple example - much more miners visit tin, copper or iron mines in comparison to platinum, so naturally criminals should be rather interested in those. So you see that it's the OOC reason which pushes them focus to the platinum one, making the situation less realistic within the settings). The source of the problem is of course the unrealistic idea of the pvp/non pvp itself.

[DarkraTantellion]

I agree to this, 100 %! I love how evil is coming back and making this game a lot more interesting. And I would think the Octarchy would have no say in the mines since it is in the wilds, I mean, I thought the Octarchy just patrol the cities? What Teshia said was right, I think it would be impossible for the Octarchy to patrol every single corner of the map. Maybe you can have an RP that people who live in Hydlaa or any of the cities begin to complain about the platinum mine, thus sending a Vigesimi to investigate? Also if a Vigesimi or even the Octarch for this level would investigate. Also, don't make them invulnerable, they can, also, die.

In reality, since platinum is an important resource, and unique on the Dome level, usurping it will naturally cause the defensive action of the official army or whatever law enforcement is around there.

I have heared that there are 10 platinum mining spots in Yliakum. So that place isn't the only one, and would not cause major damage.

[weltall]

I agree to this, 100 %! I love how evil is coming back and making this game a lot more interesting. And I would think the Octarchy would have no say in the mines since it is in the wilds, I mean, I thought the Octarchy just patrol the cities? What Teshia said was right, I think it would be impossible for the Octarchy to patrol every single corner of the map. Maybe you can have an RP that people who live in Hydlaa or any of the cities begin to complain about the platinum mine, thus sending a Vigesimi to investigate? Also if a Vigesimi or even the Octarch for this level would investigate. Also, don't make them invulnerable, they can, also, die.

In reality, since platinum is an important resource, and unique on the Dome level, usurping it will naturally cause the defensive action of the official army or whatever law enforcement is around there.

I have heared that there are 10 platinum mining spots in Yliakum. So that place isn't the only one, and would not cause major damage.

yes they have the whole saying read the octarchal decree

[Gilrond]

I have heared that there are 10 platinum mining spots in Yliakum. So that place isn't the only one, and would not cause major damage.

Really, on the Dome or on other [non existent yet] levels? Or may be you've heard it in the tavern from someone who had too much liquor?

[DarkraTantellion]

I have heared that there are 10 platinum mining spots in Yliakum. So that place isn't the only one, and would not cause major damage.

Really, on the Dome or on other [non existent yet] levels? Or may be you've heard it in the tavern from someone who had too much liquor?

I do not remember but I do remember him saying that he had heared it from one of the developers. Might even have heared it from a GM himself, but I dfo not have the best memories around.

[weltall]

I agree on the liquour  there aren't 10 platinum mines

[IkonRevisions]

Well maybe if you ask the Stillwater Peace Corps nicely we can build a couple more platinum mines *winks*. Then the amount you pay to our cause will reflect what quality of mine we let you "mine" at. I think it is more interesting to the SPC to try and control a resource or point in Yliakum that actually gets the notice of people, I say mission accomplished thus far.

Also, I know the last couple of days have been a bit slow on RP responses to threats, appeals, etc to the SPC but this is just because we have been working to finalize my writeup for the guild. Hopefully, more interesting things are soon to come.

-Ikon

[bilbous]

* bilbous wonders where the mining office is where you have to buy your mining permit.

That would seem to be a logical place for someone to take a complaint to. Of course there isn't such a place, except theoretically, which kind of points out the main reason there has been no official response. If the Octarchy were actually losing income from miners who can't mine safely requiring refunds there would be big trouble. The real problem to me, stems from the fact that you can actually mine the precious metals -- or really anything -- at all and not have to buy the raw materials from the authorized monopoly. There could, perhaps be a few low grade deposits here or there that outlaw miners could mine at their own risk but that is a different story.

Still if players are keeping themselves interested this lurker can't object.

[Eardstapa]

  to SPC; i too have had a lot of fun RPing with your guild, and, speaking as a relative newcomer, have felt welcome. OOC communication with the slain has been big-hearted - if it were up to me, Aensor in particular would be getting a medal! 

i also like how ignorant the troops are: "Theirs not to reason why / Theirs but to do or die" - it can present many RP options, like Tessra has said - taunt / challenge / undermine their generals' authority / defy them / attempt mind control etc.

OOC, since a couple of people have already mentioned it in this thread, if anyone knows how to or would be interested in furthering an RP scenario where citizen claims are brought to octarchal notice and government action is taken, a petition is already up, in Hydlaa, and i will be looking for a place to take it.

see everyone in-game.