[COMMUNITY] We're Remaking the tutorial so it’s fun and interesting thread

[LigH]

Roled!

Sounds like a kind of preface to the "Letter of a friend".

[Venalan]

Update;

So, the first quest is done and her little bakery set up is done. Screenie to follow once I make one.

The first quest contains a good deal of /basic/ settings info.

What the area you are start in is and the general idea that invasions have started up again.
Details of the dome and seven levels.
Details about the what the bronze doors and stone labyrinth are.
Info on the Octarchy and Vigisimi and they are 'in charge'.
Race specific comments on when the players chosen race stared or arrived.
Details on other cities and basic info on how to get there.
Names and basic info on the gods.
Info on the start point to learning to cook and bake.
Info on what to expect in the rest of the tutorial or an explanation they can leave if they want to skip it.
And the first stack of starting goodies.

I'm making progress with the help of Taya with all this stuff. YAY US!

[LigH]

Yay!

So I believe I will have to get teleported back to the tutorial one day to get impressed anew.

[Bonifarzia]

I'm making progress with the help of Taya with all this stuff. YAY US!

Thanks to both of you 

Tutorial overhaul has been attempted quite a few times and getting it finally done in such a good manner should really help to attract more players.

[Venalan]

The promised screenie.

[helios21]

Venalan I think is a good idea to give out a starting pack for new players (at the tutorial end). The starting pack could be chosen by players, an example:

- I want to be a warrior starting pack: two pieces of armor and a couple of weapons, some tria, a few potions
- I want to be a mage starting pack: 2 basic glyphs, some tria, a few mana and health potions, a couple of light armour pieces and one light weapon
- I want to be hunter: 2 pieces of armour, one light weapon, one bow, 65+65 arrows, some tria a few potions
- I want to be a crafter/... : some tool (rock pick, hammer, ...), some basic material, like a few ores, some tria, a few potions

those are just drafts of course

I wouldn´t add too much in there. As I was new I found it to be quite nice to have to get some stuff by myself or be given it by other players. I found it to be easy to buy glyphs from Levrus for example. And I was given a complete leather armor by a friendly player who played this game for a longer time already.

Having everything thats needed can make the initial finding where stuff is a bit boring…

What about adding a mount so players can see we have them? <-- good idea!

That means that an NPC has a mount? Well that would be nice. Although I think it will become kinda obvious that there are mounts pretty soon. Still, its part of the setting I think, so I think thats nice.

Thanks,

[helios21]

Can players learn to duel in the tutorial? That would be fun

As I entered the game I thought that anyone could just come and kill my char at any time. Actually I thought my char get killed in the first half hour. I was pleasantly surprised that no one even tried to attack my char during that time .

I didn´t understand a think about duels. And even after having had the first training fight like duels, I thought when I am not careful enough my char gets killed. I didn´t know that there was a way to just defeat a player.

So, the tutorial didn´t give my anything to understand these game mechanics.

Well Planeshift iss my first MMORPG and still only MMORPG, so I may point out things that are obvious to other players. And: The tutorial does not have to resolve or explain everything. But still, at least an option to get a short intro on it or so, might be fine.

[helios21]

Yay!

So I believe I will have to get teleported back to the tutorial one day to get impressed anew.

Do I need an alt to be able to get there again? I do not yet have one and I am not sure whether I want one. I already have enough of things to do with the one char I play

[helios21]

Make it so that the rats in the tutorial take about 15-20 seconds to kill, taking no health points from the character. All rats in the tutorial drop hides, so you don't have to kill heaps till you finally get one to give to Ibhaar.

I hope it will continue to be optional. I know I cheated back then. I just told Ibhaar I was not able without even trying to do so on my second attempt to play the tutorial. Well as I decided for my char was that the char just really was not able to, but for non technical reasons.

[helios21]

There was a good suggestion by Shkirr(?) Mewmeat, a few days ago, to have an IC dictionary of a few usual phrases, in Common and in several racial languages. I am not sure if this would be a matching place for a copy, but it might give new players an early impression that some people take the meaning of "immersion" serious.

Like Tabei for example. I was surprised at people calling me Tabei all the time. Yes, some intro to the slang would be nice. I think some of this can be done by the NPC dialogs.

[helios21]

On showering I got an idea about the rats and the duel topic: How about offering to duel the Ibhaar NPC as an alternative option, like:

NPC smiles provocatively / challengly "Or alternatively you can fight against me, if you dare. I´d say you wouldn´t stand a chance, but I´d make it a bit easier for you so you would be able to learn something."

Maybe this can be fitted into the setting especially if Ibhaar is bored or unhappy about not being at BD Fortress.

Alternatively tutorial helpers or another training NPC could help out. As I heard about plans to possibly add dummies to the arena, this might fit with that as well. In any way, I would like an option to have some training fights easily, were result would be winning, yielding or being defeated.

Ciao,

[LigH]

Do I need an alt to be able to get there again?

Even worse, you would need another account (with a different email address). Only the first character of each account visits the tutorial. An effort many may rate as disproportionate.

Therefore you may try to petition your wish to get back there. The gain of money and items would be little for an already advanced player.

[Illysia]

Cool. So what is the tutorial area in relation to Hydlaa An outpost? I can make a news bulletin saying that abelia has remodeled her bakery.

[Roled]

RE: Venalan's screenie...

PORG!!!! 

[LigH]

Yes, a pork grill, like in Camp Banished.