[COMMUNITY] We're Remaking the tutorial so it’s fun and interesting thread

[Venalan]

Except that my one looks better 

[Venalan]

Update time;

So the second quest with neave is basically done, the third quest with Ibhaar is close to being done. Quest number 4 should soon be stated.

An FYI: I will be asking for a full quest wipe of the tutorial quests so that everyone can repeat them to tell us what you think.

Anyone can ask a online GM or file a petition to ask to be moved to the tutorial -once it is released-. If you ask a GM face to face they should just do it immediately, if you ask by petition and you are online when a GM sees it they should let you know they are going to move you and will do it. You shouldn't expect them to hang about long waiting for you to finish up. If you are off line they should just reset your login position in the tutorial so the next time you log in you will see it.

Also;

I'm still very much willing to hear ideas about what we could do to make the tutorial as interesting as possible, so please if anyone reading this has an idea they dont think I know about post it and tell me.

[Taya]

Another update:

The second quest with Neave is now, not only basically done, but really done.

It covers a little more settings info and introduces crafting.

Info about the law.
Directions to visit the library.
Info about some of the things that can be crafted.
Info about the Crafting Association.
Names of trainers you can start learning with.
The chance to try making molten ore.
Info about mining.
Hints about rare metals.
And maybe something else to add to the stack of goodies Abelia gave.


And Neave's little corner of the map has had its own makeover as well.

[Bonifarzia]

Maybe I keep saying the same things again, but I think this will turn out nice and be a true help to attract new players... or rather, to make them stay for longer than a few minutes.

 

[Bakin_Fundinson]

...what Boni said, x2
 
When it's all done & public, I'll give a go to see of some things needs clarification...
Is the whole tutorial doable by minors? From a non-english speaking country?
Is food introduced?
Is hunger / eating in the works or not being worked on?   

But again, great work, Venalan, this is something that will improve the player-base *bigtime* in the long run

/Bakin

[Eonwind]

Is hunger / eating in the works or not being worked on?   

we already discussed about adding hunger and we don't want to introduce a hunger system that would penalize RPers and could be a potential trouble for everyone, so instead we gave food beneficial effects. A new system of buffs/debuffs for food was recently introduced as a result. We also added the indigestion capabilities to add a gameplay element and balance the food buffs in the process.

[cdmoreland]

It's obvious that the RPers get the upper-hand.  Just my pet-peeve.

You really need to do something about the last 2 NPCs in the tutorial as they sound like a 33 rpm @ 78 rpm (for those that remember records).

The new stuff looks great, Venalan. Thanks for your hard work.

[Mordaan]

You really need to do something about the last 2 NPCs in the tutorial as they sound like a 33 rpm @ 78 rpm (for those that remember records).

Since the dialog is being redone, those audio files will go away anyway.  It was a nice experiment to try and give NPCs an actual voice, but I think it might be time to scrap the idea for now.   

[Eonwind]

A great thanks to Taya who is helping out to rework the tutorial! Keep up the good work! 

[Bakin_Fundinson]

A great thanks to Taya who is helping out to rework the tutorial!

Whoa, I thought it was a solo-work by V...
My apologies; Big thank-yous go out to all participants in this improvement
 
Bakin

[Taya]

No problem Bakin. I'm very happy to be involved.

[Illysia]

Nice work guys. People may actually try the tutorial rather than run around for 2 mins then try to leave. Hmm... might you be able to add something to encourage players to interact with each other in the tutorial? My past adventures in working in the tutorial area meant that when you tried to help new players they almost never said anything back. :/ One interesting exception was the Spanish speaker who used the Spanish equivalent of chat speak. If Lilu hadn't been there I wouldn't have had any clue what he was asking.

[Venalan]

So I am overseeing it all with the master plan I outlined in post one (more or less) which is based on the tutorial remake project posted on the PSwiki. And I'm still after ideas for some books which would hold some useful early game information for players.

I coerced Taya into helping me by saying there would be chocolate for her  . Thus far Taya has helped with quests and setting up lots of the props, everything in the Neave post she has made or set up with a few suggestions. Eonwind is going to be doing a little bit for this as well at some point, which will add a little life to the place. So I'm not the only one working on it, and I'm enjoying making this with Taya we are having fun with it.

There is still lots to do before we are close to ready, so showing it off to you lot is still a good number of weeks off. But on the up side a problem I had with opening up the tutorial to all has been solved so I will be adding a gate to it by the windowless tower. But be warned once you enter it you will have to do at least some of the tutorial before you will be able to get out.

OH! And Taya, the Chocolate is real.... obviously...

@Illysia
I've tried talking to players in the tutorial as well. It seems they are either just to stuck to know I spoke, or busy to notice I spoke, or busy reading the NPC tab to notice I spoke. Perhaps opening it up will change that by having established players helping and/or RPing in there.

[Illysia]

Ok, thanks you all of you for working on this sorely needed project. I'll keep an eye out for the gate being placed, about time that gate got used anyway.

However, maybe seeing others standing around talking when they first get in rather than just a silent area will help. It will be interesting to see what comes of it.

[Taya]

Chocolate is always real. And don't forget that cup of tea you owe me. And the biscuits to dunk in it Venalan! Really, don't forget the biscuits.

I'm hoping that by opening up the tutorial it will be much easier for new players to encounter and get help from people earlier on, and that the changes will make it easier for new players to start out in general as well. So far it's looking good, so I am pretty sure we still have time to make it even better before people get to play through it and see what we've done.