Physical Stamina Depletion

[tman]

@Raxuss.  Ah I see.  You're thinking of Squishy Wizards.  Most "classical" and "class-based" RPGs penalize mages for using armor.  Therefore the mage is easy to kill but hits hard (with "nuke" spells) while he/she is alive.

PlaneShift takes more of an Elder Scrolls approach.  You can raise any combination of skills you want.  Mage with plate armor, battle axe wielder with leather, etc.  You don't need to conform to the classical "roles."

At low levels magic has the advantage, because weapon damage is very low starting out and NPCs dodge/block it easily, while spells do pretty much a set amount on every cast.  Magic is great for hunting because you can kill things stronger than you easily just by staying out of the NPC's range.

In PvP, usually warriors have the advantage of extra armor protection and mages have the advantage of higher DPS.  But since mages in PS can wear just as much armor as warriors, the DPS for mages is lower.  Their main advantage in PvP is keeping their distance from warriors and whittling their health down from afar.

[Lumi]

At low levels magic has the advantage, because weapon damage is very low starting out and NPCs dodge/block it easily, while spells do pretty much a set amount on every cast.  Magic is great for hunting because you can kill things stronger than you easily just by staying out of the NPC's range.

In PvP, usually warriors have the advantage of extra armor protection and mages have the advantage of higher DPS.  But since mages in PS can wear just as much armor as warriors, the DPS for mages is lower.  Their main advantage in PvP is keeping their distance from warriors and whittling their health down from afar.

Exactly. And warriors do stand a chance against mages, even we fear them.

@Eonwind : I am not completly sure that it was what you was looking for but here are some results of tests on Mental stamina, with a MAGE char :
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level 157 Azure Way (without boost) + Will = 400
Realm used = Realm 3 (psychic blow spell)
Stance = Full defensive
KFactor = 20 sec before beeing depleted (without Relaxing Sleep)
               25 sec before beeing depleted (with Relaxing Sleep)
Armor type = MA (doesn't really matter here)
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level 100 Red Way (without boost) + Will = 400
Realm used = Realm 5 (Fist of the Volcano spell)
Stance = Full defensive
KFactor = 34 seconde before beeing depleted (without Relaxing Sleep)
               39 seconde before beeing depleted (with Relaxing Sleep)
Armor type = MA
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level 51 Brown Way (without boost) + Intelligence = 200
Realm used = Realm 3 (Stone Fist spell)
Stance = Full defensive
KFactor = 45 seconde before beeing depleted (without Relaxing Sleep)
Armor type = MA
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I hope this help in any way 

[tman]

Try the same things without armor to see if it changes.

[Volki]

I think you're just pretending to know about fighting, as seems to have a lot of misconceptions. For what it's worth I've been training (and I still do) both with martial arts (and competitions as well) and medieval swordsplay with both sparring equipment and real steel.

Pretending to know about fighting? Wow, what is that, a YouTube comment? You have not offered any real information. You have only been repeating misconception after misconception. You have not bothered to discuss intelligently. I have never met a martial artist with such disrespect for another.

Where are the numbers I required?

As a developer, you should be getting those yourself. Players can be testers, but they are not your slaves.

[Rigwyn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aqRkxTjV1c

[Volki]

lol

That's so bad, Rigwyn.

[Rigwyn]

This is better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGh0EMmMC8

[Lumi]

Try the same things without armor to see if it changes.

I did tried with and without MA and it make no difference. I am not mooving nor swinging a weapon.

[Rigwyn]

I'm assuming y'all are switching stances as you go. 

[Eonwind]

@Lumi: thank you this is much helpful. Anyway the armors should make some difference but maybe in your case it's only noticeable when you casting with an higher KFactor (50-100%). Tanks again for the data.

[Lumi]

Ah ok! i wasn't really sure what a KFactor was in that case  lol
All the tests has been made on 0%. i will try with 50 and 100%, with and without MA.

@Rigwyn : Nop i didn't switched stance. As a mage i always stay in Full defensive anyways. I might try with weapons after but i am at very low level in those.

[Lumi]

@Eonwind : I know that you are busy on something else right now Eonwind but i re-did the test with different KFactors. I used the same MAGE char and same spells as in the previous tests.

Note : All the tests  without using Relaxing Sleep. (the difference is not that big with or without anyways).
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level 157 Azure Way (without boost) + Will = 400
Realm used = Realm 3 (psychic blow spell)
Stance = Full defensive
KFactor = 50%
MA on
16 sec before beeing depleted (without relaxing sleep)
Ma off
19 sec before beeing depleted (without rela

KFactor = 100%
MA on
13 sec before beeing depleted
MA off
15 sec before beeing depleted.
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level 100 Red Way (without boost) + Will = 400
Realm used = Realm 5 (Fist of the Volcano spell)
Stance = Full defensive
KFactor = 50 %
MA on
25 sec before beeing depleted
MA off
25 sec before beeing depleted

KFactor = 100%
MA on
15 sec before beeing depleted
MA off
15 sec before beeing depleted


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level 51 Brown Way (without boost) + Intelligence = 200
Realm used = Realm 3 (Stone Fist spell)
Stance = Full defensive
KFactor = 50%
MA on
45 sec before beeing depleted
MA off
45 sec before beeing depleted

KFactor = 100%
MA on
24 sec before beeing depleted
MA off
24 sec before beeing depleted
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Azure is the only way for which i noticed a difference with & without armor on. Armor shouldn't matter for a mage as he/she isn't mooving at all.
Nonetheless i also noticed that the Mental Stamina restore a bit faster without MA on...


Test with a WARRIOR.
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Weapons = Light Maces (level 35)
Armor = Complet MA + Helmet (Horned Helm)
Stance :
Normal = 1min04 sec
Aggressive = 34 sec
Bloody = 20 sec

The same without armor
Normal = 1min04 sec
Aggressive = 34 sec
Bloody = 20 sec

See how weird are the results... No differences with or without armor. I wonder if i didn't made a mistake in my testing ? 
Or is all the difference in the vitess of stamina restoration ?

[Volki]

Sorry, Lumi, can't resist.

[Rigwyn]

<3

[Lumi]

Lol Yes well busy bee i've ben