Get rid of native langues?

[tygerwilde]

man, I used to read the Conan books a lot, at one point there\'s a conversation about a politician poisoning the people to cull out the poor and weak.
Conan makes a comment something along the lines of \"they call me a barbarian, but I would rather not be civilised

that comment comes to mind whenever I see fully grown men make comments like that

[Fish]

I always get a kick out of this kind of thread.

Let?s say each race gets its own language.  And if they use that language and you have no ability to read it the difference between that and say French is exactly what?  That is if you don?t know French.

Assuming that there will be channels available one could always have the French channel or the German channel or Swedish channel.  If it really bothers you that you can?t read a particular language turn off the channel.

This game is in a very early stage of development.  When this game is finally released it isn?t like you can?t just make a server for what ever player language you like.  You would have to train the NPC?s to speak in whatever language you are using but that?s how it goes.

I just don?t understand what all the fuss is about.

[stegg]

Tyger , I\'m just trying to explain what I wrote in my earlier posts and I don\'t think your comment about Conan is very appropriate.

Niber did express his opinion more precisely when he said that :
\"In sweden we have to learn more than english and swedish so I have learned Spanish too,, but thats as far as I will go with that.
I will not learn both german and french just so I can play on european servers better,, I have much more english to learn instead.

And for almost all of the replays: Chill out! You guys act as I just said something rasist and insulted some countrys, i did not,, I simply say it\'s a problem in some MMORPGs,, so don\'t say things like human rights and freedom\"

and I\'m ok with that. Even if his choice of words was not very lucky in his first post, I think I do understand what he means now. I\'m also coming from a \"small\" european country and I do realize that english is a federative language.

[EDIT : by the way I reread the posts from hook, Xalthar etc.. and that\'s exactly my opinion too. Nothing more, nothing less.]

[Caldazar]

Stegg: No hard feelings, right?

[ParaSite]

<-- agrees with stegg

[tygerwilde]

it seems strange to me that the clumsiest language in the world, with the most multiple meaning words would also be the most popular, especially since it\'s so bastardised

I wasn\'t saying anything against you stegg, it just popped into my mind, and I\'m sorry if it offended you,

honestly though I liked them when I was younger, I realise that the conan books were horrible literature.

basically, I feel offended that anyone would want to exclude people from their world because of the language that they speak. there\'s a woman down the street, runs a video store. she only speaks chinese, yet I rent from her. although I don\'t understand what she is saying, we communicate quite well, and she seems like such a dear person.

[stegg]

no hard feelings.... I just got a bit cought up in all this. Finally I think I like this thread, now that everybody, including myself has come to his senses. ;-)
I must admit I\'m proud to somehow be part of this community, and as a MMORPG community is a reflection of its game, I\'m confident that Planeshift will be a reference in MMORPGs.

[Niber]

I just though of something,, will Planeshift be translated?

[Yann]

Nope.

[Tajin]

Hmm didnt read the whole of this thread, but.

IMO english just is the most common language used in the web, everyone should know at least a bit of it.
And if some ppl from the same country meet, why shouldn\'t they use their language ?

In a other thread someone complained bout the wish of someone to have a european or whatsoever guild, because of racism and the like. But see, its good for a guild if the members know each other well... and that is much easier if they speak the same language.


I\'m allways working on my english and i hate all kinds of racism, but there are some things that cannot be changed... not yet.

[Khutin]

Greetings, everyone!

I just stopped at this topic today, and I couldn\'t get out of it without posting my opinion. ;-)

Well, my native language isn\'t English, as you can se by my \'Location\'. I speak Portuguese as native language, which is a little bit different from Portuguese spoken in Portugal and in Angola (which have their differences between them).

You don\'t find many people that can speak Portuguese out of the countries that have it as their native languages. Assuming this, I only speak in English when playing PS just because it makes the conversation EASIER. Up to now, I met most players speaking in English and some speaking in French... and ONLY ONE speaking in Portuguese, like me. :-P

I think it\'s part of the role-playing. In Dungeons&Dragons you have lots of languages. The great Tolkien do not created only one language which is spoken in all Middle-Earth. In my opinion, it also opens a door to another job in the game: translator. Why not?

For example, I\'m very good a Portuguese (duh!) and can speak English as well, but my Spanish is very poor and I only can count from 1 to 30 in Deutsch. And now? And if I meet a player that I know he has a very important information for me, but he speaks only a dialect spoken by members of a small village in South Oceania (maximizing the problem, of course)? What should I do? It\'s role-playing! It\'s a natural obstacle imposed by a worldwide dimensions game.

When I met this guy who speaks Portuguese (as I do), only the first phrases where in Portuguese. The rest of the dialogue we spoke in private (\'/tell\'), because I know there are people who don\'t like reading mixed language things (You are reading in English and suddenly appears something in Danish in the middle of the text) and I also know there are people who don\'t care. But I respect both.

Of course I don\'t mind to... err.. \'teach\' some Portuguese to those who are interested in during the game (although I know it isn\'t the game goal), because it isn\'t simply a game: it\'s also a great community we are forming.

One last thing: I read a message (don\'t remember who post it) in this topic saying that a little percentage of the WWW isn\'t in English. Hmmm... I think he should surf a little bit more in the http://WWW. He\'ll discover tons of pages in Deutsch, in Portuguese, in French, and also (and mainly) in Spanish. Of course everybody has its own surfing habits and needs, and this is what leads more one to pages in a language than to others.

I apologize for this long e-mail, but this is what I think. And by the way this discussion was lead, I can\'t wait for the combat engine start working! Ahahah :-) :-P