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Need Webspace? Unique Offer for PlaneShift Guilds!
« on: October 21, 2003, 12:22:01 pm »
Hiya everyone,

Our good friends at Fragnetics are offering 3 FREE 50mb webspace accounts (ad-less, bannerless, limitless!) to select PlaneShift Guilds. The idea is that Guild leaders would send an application to be reviewed to see if they qualify to be entered into a competition.

We need to write up some criteria, requirements, so as to ensure Guilds who submit an application arn\'t going to disappear after a couple of weeks, and that they are going to put this space to good use if they win. Any comments and suggestions are welcomed, but bear in mind that we want to make sure the requirements are fair and do not ignore new Guilds or those who simply do not get as much publicity as others.

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Chrischoo throws around some ideas:

Clans can purchase their own domains from other sources, and we will
do the necessary set-up required to have their e-mail and websites hosted on
our server. Alternatively we could start a http://clans.fragnetics.com
subdomain as well.

There is no catch to this offer, except that we are only interested in
having the more established clans who have such a need, host their websites
with us. If they already have their own domains we can set up their accounts
such that they are entitled to unlimited e-mail accounts as described under
our web hosting plans at http://www.fragnetics.com/services/webhosting.html


Also bear in mind that, because we intend on holding an open contest, the criteria need not be so strict as to only apply to 3 Guilds. Let\'s get a list of applicable Guilds involved and have the members of each competing against eachother in some really fun way. :)


Here\'s my personal input on the idea:

1st point: The contest should involve all the Guild members of those involved in a group activity. The contest itself could be one big event, or it may be comprised of several smaller events, like a school sports day. The teams would rack up points in various different competitions and have a total at the end. The 3 highest scores win!

2nd point: Applicable Guilds should at least have some basic form of Website up, if only for proof that they are somewhat organised and serious about their commitment. I don\'t think requirements should be set for how new or old a Guild has to be, but that is of course for you all to decide.

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Many thanks go to Chrischoo and the Fragnetics Team for this unique offer!


Looking forward to your input. Give us your thoughts! :)


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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2003, 01:41:46 pm »
Nice idea, I like it.
I not sure how u can get guilds to compete, as most of the ways are unfair to some.

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2003, 01:51:49 pm »
well i asume she means the guilds that are really active atm, and the guilds that have the best ideas and things like that.
Sort of who want\'s to become the president of USA competition.

and yes xordan the person with the biggest bribe would win ( in your world :P )
« Last Edit: October 21, 2003, 04:09:32 pm by dorbian »

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2003, 01:53:33 pm »
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Sort of who want\'s to become the president of USA competition.


Oh, I see.
So the person who makes the highest bribe wins?

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2003, 04:07:40 pm »
very kewl idea chriscoo/moogie

i say Defenders whould benifit from a offer like this the most
and mebbie mirth :D

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2003, 05:37:47 pm »
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Sort of who want\'s to become the president of USA competition.


The general impression I get, of the campaign the Americans running for president are employing, is to ridicule your opponent as much as possible, and try to hide the bad things about yourself.. So that your opponent can\'t ridicule you in the same fashion (same goes to some extent for the british)

And to think that the worlds superpowers are governed by cretins, willing to employ such undemocratic methods is simply scaring..

No, it would be much better to have something up the ladder mogura suggested..

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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2003, 06:01:01 pm »
And i hope that the three guilds that get elected will not gain political powers in PS, just free hosting ;-)

No, error: i hope that if AO is not in the three guilds, these one will not gain political powers in PS, just free hosting :D

Hmm... seriously, i think that a contest is better than debates. Can you imagine a Cabal vs Lawful Guild debate? probably not so interesting...

[edit]: No offense Draklar, i just took Defenders as a lawful guild to show that a debate between a lawful and an evil guild will be pointless.
« Last Edit: October 21, 2003, 08:13:09 pm by elscouta »
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2003, 06:51:11 pm »
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i say Defenders whould benifit from a offer like this the most

Nah, we got offer of hosting our website from one of our members :)

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Can you imagine a Cabal vs Defenders debate? probably not so interesting...

here comes the mud slinging :rolleyes:
just wondering... how many of Defenders members do you know to say such thing, hmmm?
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2003, 07:21:28 pm »
Oook... let\'s not start drifting here... strictly to topic please. If nobody discusses this, how are we going to do it? :P

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2003, 08:16:00 pm »
Maybe we can give the hosting to guild that *really* need it until CB comes, and two or three months later, make a contest in game where the winners will get it.

Draklar: sorry i think i haven\'t made myself understood, read the edit ;)
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2003, 08:55:39 pm »
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Maybe we can give the hosting to guild that *really* need it until CB comes, and two or three months later, make a contest in game where the winners will get it.


I don\'t think this will work;

1)no guild really needs it. A website made on a free host can be 10 times better then a website on a paid host. What im saying is that if you really need some webspace, a free host also works.

2)What makes a guild THAT guild who \"really needs it\" ??

3)so give a guild the host for 2-3 months and after the time is up, they get booted from the host? Not really fair dont you think? It should be decided now or later in a few months. Giving the host for just 2 months to a guild isnt usefull, it can take more then that to get your website finnished.

I hope i may arguements are a bit clear...



As for contest ideas, it should defenitly include a part which has todo with webdesign and the guild\'s organization.

Planeshift likes to see good organized guilds which really fits inside a rpg world. It would be an idea to give the 3 hosts to the 3 best guilds who put alot of effort into roleplaying, beliefs, organization etc.

And offcourse the webdesign. The price is a great webspace so its nothing but healthy sense that there should be some webdesign-stuff in the contest.  To make it equal between webdesign pro\'s and amateurs we could look at: ideas, photoshop designs etc.

EDIT:i was wondering do the 3 hosts also get their on domain?
« Last Edit: October 21, 2003, 09:03:35 pm by Xolon »

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2003, 09:13:56 pm »
ooooohhhhh...
ok, sorry, didn\'t get that :P
anyways i think debate of evil and lawful guild wouldn\'t be that pointles...
Now Cabal is other thing... i think they might make pointles debate with any type of guild ;)
You know... that\'s what they are best in :P
« Last Edit: October 22, 2003, 06:22:40 pm by Draklar »
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2003, 11:28:01 pm »
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1)no guild really needs it. A website made on a free host can be 10 times better then a website on a paid host. What im saying is that if you really need some webspace, a free host also works.


Still, those with the skill to create a decent website may also want to include more content.


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Originally posted by Xolon
2)What makes a guild THAT guild who \"really needs it\" ??


That\'s one of the things open to discussion here. :)


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Originally posted by Xolon
3)so give a guild the host for 2-3 months and after the time is up, they get booted from the host? Not really fair dont you think? It should be decided now or later in a few months. Giving the host for just 2 months to a guild isnt usefull, it can take more then that to get your website finnished.


I\'m not sure what you mean. We have no intention of booting anyone once they\'ve been given the accounts. We want to eliminate the need to do this before we even start. That\'s why this thread exists.


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Planeshift likes to see good organized guilds which really fits inside a rpg world. It would be an idea to give the 3 hosts to the 3 best guilds who put alot of effort into roleplaying, beliefs, organization etc.

And offcourse the webdesign. The price is a great webspace so its nothing but healthy sense that there should be some webdesign-stuff in the contest.  To make it equal between webdesign pro\'s and amateurs we could look at: ideas, photoshop designs etc.


Sounds good, but how would you put beliefs and organisation on a scale to see who is \'best\' or \'worst\'?


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EDIT:i was wondering do the 3 hosts also get their on domain?


Not sure, Chrischoo will have to answer that one. :)


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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2003, 12:23:47 am »
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Originally posted by Xolon
3)so give a guild the host for 2-3 months and after the time is up, they get booted from the host? Not really fair dont you think? It should be decided now or later in a few months. Giving the host for just 2 months to a guild isnt usefull, it can take more then that to get your website finnished.


I\'m not sure what you mean. We have no intention of booting anyone once they\'ve been given the accounts. We want to eliminate the need to do this before we even start. That\'s why this thread exists.



I believe Xolon was responding to elscouta\'s post on this one. (and the other two)
« Last Edit: October 22, 2003, 12:24:23 am by Kiern »

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2003, 12:19:33 pm »
thnx for explaining kiern :)

yup i was actually replying on elscouta\'s post.

Beliefs and organization can be scaled if their waterproof. Do they raise any questions? If so, are these questions answered on other places of the site (the guildrules for instance).

Beliefs and organization dont have to be 100% original, but does it contain things that gives this guild its own identity? does it makes the guild \'special\'?

I think these are one of the main questions we should try to answer when looking at a guild\'s belief/organization.