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[Rageburst]

Originally posted by Kramy
So what you\'re saying is that I should install a better windows BEFORE I install linux, or it could get messed up?

Windows is also the ideal newbie designer platform, since it has loads of not-so-great stuff that\'s free.

I\'m looking into SUSE, but first I want a new HD. All of mine are almost full, and there doesn\'t seem to be a point installing Linux if I don\'t have any apps for it.

Rageburst: Technically Windows is free(almost) if you get an old copy.

Windows 95 - 9.95
Windows 98 - 19.95
Windows ME - 29.95

Usually they can be found in the bargain bin at places like staples.

I don\'t mean Windows can be free.... hell, you can rip it off anywhere.

I meant that their programming languages and softwares are not free. You need to license them to legally use them.... Dot net for example.

It could costs almost more than twice as much thousand dollars to set up a company server on windows.... sounds fetching business-wise?

And instead of using user-friendly linux, I recommend learning the commands... that\'s where most of the power comes from. And you get to feel geeky.

[Xandria]

Originally posted by Rageburst
I\'m not entirely sure getting a user-friendly unix OS is in your best interests. It might even hurt you in the long run.

Yes, learning the commands are quite useful, but it\'s not required for people who can get everything done in the GUI.  The only problem is that if something goes wrong, you usually have to fix it at the command line.

[Bogo]

I know we\'re not supposed to flame and post hateful messages... but good god Kramy\'s posts give me a seizure. Linux is definitely not the OS for him.
First and foremost, I don\'t mean any offense to you Kramy, but at this point in time Linux takes a lot of patience and dedication, that which you don\'t have. If you take time to look there are hundreds of thousdands of help files and websites devoted to helping people use Linux - more than I\'ve ever found for Windows. Secondly, Windows is NOT free, no matter how you want to put it. You can pirate it all you want, but that still does not make it free. Sure you pay no money for it, but Linux is free as in free speech, not free beer. It\'s not something that\'s complementary to Windows or runs otop of it - it is it\'s own seperate entity. Linux is not the OS that doesn\'t let you delete important files - it\'s far from that. Windows, unlike what you stated earlier, protects you from doing many things to your computer. Linux does not and will not (once you have proper permissions) hold you back from doing anything to your system. That\'s why things like the user hierarchy where created. For example, once logged in as the superuser, all you have to do is type in \"rm -rf /\" (what you so fondly called \'DOS gibberish\') and wait several minutes. When you reboot your computer there will not be a single file left on the machine.

[Kramy]

Neat, but that\'s dangerous since I have parents that like to type things.

I\'m worried since if they type in the wrong thing Linux will format my hard drive. Think I\'ll get a new HD or a CD Burner before I install Linux.

Edit: I\'m very patient and dedicated, just not to useless things.

[Bogo]

Linux probably wont give you very many advantages over Windows. It\'s something new and interesting to mess with, but unless you\'re a really serious power user it doesn\'t make much sense to keep using it.

[Kramy]

Hmm.....maybe I should upgrade to Windows ME then? I hate upgrading windows, since it always has bugs after being converted, but Windows ME doesn\'t have some of the bugs in 98, which would be helpful.

I guess I\'ll make my final decision after getting a new HD. Thanks Bogo.

[Ghostslayer]

Originally posted by Kramy
Hmm.....maybe I should upgrade to Windows ME then? I hate upgrading windows, since it always has bugs after being converted, but Windows ME doesn\'t have some of the bugs in 98, which would be helpful.

GAA! Anything BUT Windows ME..... That was probobly the worst OS Microsoft has ever made... its absolutely terrible.  I didn\'t like windows 98, and tried ME, but it was even more unstable....
Btw, this is not a personal opinion on it, I\'ve worked in a computer shop (sales mind you, so im not a tech guru) but everyone I\'ve talked to who has used it has eventually switched, or wanted to switch away from ME... its just that bad.

[lynx_lupo]

I second that.

And your parents can\'t screw linux unless you give them root(admin) privileges- which is stupid anyway.

[Xandria]

First of all, I have never used Windows ME because everything I heard about it said it was terrible.

Second of all, you should NEVER upgrade a system that you\'ve been using for any extended period of time.  There is always stuff that gets messed up; it\'s just not worth it.  Back up all your files to a CD, or another networked computer, or USB, or another hard drive (the easiest option, anyway ).  Then do a complete reformat of your hard drive and do a fresh install of Windows.  If you have an upgrade CD, then just install the prior version of Windows new, then run the install right after it.

But please don\'t use the upgrade feature, it causes way too may more problems that it\'s worth  


And lynx_lupo is correct: as long as you restrict user accounts, your system will be very safe (after all, Linux was built with security in mind).  And never ever use root unless you absolutely have to.  Even us super-users can make mistakes at times

[Kramy]

Hmm, I\'m going to remember that. Windows ME = Bad.

I\'ll be sure to restrict access when I install Linux to make sure nobody can accidentally delete an entire hd.(myself included)

Thanks everyone!

[Bogo]

Your best bet is either Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP Pro.

[elscouta]

Bogo: have you tried Linux?

Seems you know nothing on the topic...

And please Tepsu, DON\'T POST HERE!!!

[Bogo]

Lol my Laptop and my server both run Gentoo Linux and have so for the past year and a half Before that slackware and before that debian. Way back in the day I tried out Storm Linux 2000, RedHat, and Mandrake. I\'ve also tried my fair share of FreeBSD, and although it\'s extremely good, I\'d rather just stick with what I\'m most comfortable with. I\'m just trying to keep him from getting frustrated with it and then deciding to spam on this forum about how much Linux sucks.