Imperial Legion

[Xordan]

Bah, I don\'t want new guilds to be encouraged. The less of them there are the better.

[Moogie]

Originally posted by Draklar

Originally posted by Windra
Your talking about the person who posted this thread yes?
he specified that people should ask for info etc,asked nicely and asked for no spamming, and the very first reply was a negative post complaining.

negative? All I can see there is a friendly advice... followed by unfriendly reaction of leader... *shrugs*

Have to say, I agree with you there... okay, so the first post didn\'t welcome the guild or give luck or best wishes etc. But still, it was just friendly advice, and there was actually one positive remark in there: \"You chose good allies\". I think the leader badly overreacted, which set the mood for the rest of the topic, which could\'ve been a nice friendly chat with oldbies offering advice and helping the guild get on its feet. I\'d be grateful for such help, if I were in Rakera\'s position.

(Although I see the post was edited, so maybe I missed something there. Apologies if I have.)

But, oh well, I guess he was just having a bad day. Forgive and forget is what I say. It\'s just a shame not everyone always takes the same approach...

[Kiern]

I\'ve found out even the nicest posts can be taken as an attack, so if you don\'t want to piss anyone off you should always add a smiley if your saying something that can be taken the wrong way...I\'ve also found out I don\'t care, but that is another subject.

[Davis]

Originally posted by Annah
Heh ... I was asking about all neutral guilds if they have a goal ... but I don\'t think I said about all of them that they don\'t have any chance of surviving. From what I remember I said only about this guild that is kept alive only by our replis ... and why don\'t you accept the fact that some guilds \"were\" never new? And from those guilds only Black Order, Dark Empire and The Forsaken Ones are alive! ... and a little Mirth

How are we more \"little\" than Black Order, Dark Empire, and The Forsaken Ones? It\'s not activity, it\'s not member count... hmm... a perception of your overinflated ego maybe?

[Xordan]

I think it\'s activity and member count, in which case, the cabal rules supreme..

[Zaknafein]

Cabal rules!I had a funny dream last night. The Cabal conquered all of planeshift, had thousands of soldiers, members, whatever.

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Xordan
I think it\'s activity and member count, in which case, the cabal rules supreme..

Nope, Blitzers guild has more members and bigger activity.

[Windra]

ok so mayb there was positive comments in the first post, but other posts such as Annah\'s were uncalled for.
You are right when you say that you shudnt have to support \'ghost\' guilds, but you condemed these before they had began.If you dont want to support them you could not post,youw ent further than that though and told the guild not even to bother.
Guilds need time to develop into the true state and only time will tell if they will become successful or not.
In the case of good leadership, i cannot see how by looking at one post you could class them as bad leaders who do not devote time and effort to their guild.
Looking at your first recruitment thread i could have said the same,but you managed to progress into a good guild with good leadership.
As for what makes a good guild, i think an example was given earlier in the thread where a guild of small active and commited members would be far greater than a guild full of 100 n00bs that are active but have no community.
IMO a good and successful guild is not just about members and leadership, it is about the idear,their uniqueness and the way their guild works. The \'ghost\' guilds, if given encouragement and welcome, will be more encouraged to work to make their guild successful, you say that most wont survive,thats true,but there are those who will and they will flourish in PS, much like your guild, and the other guilds that are well known.

i agree with Davis on that point,if you let power go to your heads it will lead to downfall.
Atm no guild is better than every other guild, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I do not see what makes BO any better than mirth.

[Draklar]

*sigh*
Annah made his opinion quite long after this guild started. Furthermore this guild wasn\'t getting any popularity and don\'t say it\'s because of people that were saying stuff against the guilds. Unfriendly posts before Annah\'s were leader\'s fault. Looking at this thread, and how is leader reacting, you can make the conclusions. Leader is very important for guild, especially when it comes to charisma. And just look how charismatic this leader is. Answers to questions like \"Don\'t ask\" aren\'t showing anything good as well. Annah made his opinion about guild (that I agree with) and I don\'t see point of this arguing :rolleyes:

Oh, and I could point out why BO is better than Mirth :rolleyes:
(I don\'t mean power tho)

[Zephyrus]

I always laugh at what an unfortunate abbreviation BO is... i am always tempeted to post strange posts about deoderant sorry that was very offtopic...

Anyway i think the quality of a guild is detirmined by its originality, its beliefs, its aims, and most importantly is members; not the number of memebers, but instead how loyal, commited and imaginative their guild members are. In my mind the best guilds are like a community, constantly evolving and changing with its members, this is not easy though, and probably wont be truely visable until crystal blue.

Anyway, in conclusion, The Mercenary Guild is the best guild in Planeshift, period....  

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Zephyrus
Anyway, in conclusion, The Mercenary Guild is the best guild in Planeshift period....  

yes, like you said: in your mind
and like I said somewhere: it all depends on guild, \"constantly evolving and changing with its members\" wouldn\'t be so good for lawful guild

[Zephyrus]

Ok, ok, maybe that was a bit arrogant of me, it kind of hard to tell which guild is \"best\" at the moment and I don?t think there is ever just one specifically that can claim to be better than all the rest. But we are amongst the cr?me de la cr?me (like you said, in my mind )

[Annah]

Heh ... beliefs, aims? I didn\'t see some in this thread! All this thread is just an arguing between us, nothing more. And this is surely leading to nowhere ... The guy who posted this didn\'t even bore to come here to say something.
 \"Oh, and I could point out why BO is better than Mirth  
(I don\'t mean power tho)\" - I would really want to see what do you think Draklar ... heh

[Zephyrus]

Well you dont have a my little pony as your ensignia...

[Windra]

Im not  gonna continue arguing this because i could argue forever and that would make this thread even more pointless.
Though if this was my thread and from the very beggining there was offtopic comments and flames 4 pages long when i had asked for this not to happen, i wouldnt post either.
And Zeph, i completly agree