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« Reply #90 on: April 22, 2005, 08:13:12 pm »
Well I will study the blue way, anger may be a strong weapon in direct combat, but there is nothing better than a cool head and confident hand if it comes down on surviving. The way of Blue opens [IMO] many paths of off-combat magic. Healing, divination [Fortune telling *points at Lei and adyna*]

@Phinehas: I know that all to well. At least I have improved myself very much the past months
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« Reply #91 on: April 22, 2005, 08:27:24 pm »
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@Phinehas: I know that all to well. At least I have improved myself very much the past months

Caught the reference, did you? Yes, you\'ve done much better. Quite proud of you, I am.

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« Reply #92 on: April 22, 2005, 08:32:50 pm »
I am deeply apogletic for rampant offtopic but:
Phinehas: Define \"well done RP\", but define it in your own words not by pasting
me to the well known RP guideline on this forum. ;)

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« Reply #93 on: April 22, 2005, 09:33:00 pm »
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Dark and Crystal? How are you going to RP that, since they\'re polar opposites?


Im not sure Im understanding what the pb is Phinehas...

just consider the following argument :

If it\'s cold you have to create a warmer atmosphere, isnt it true?
If it\'s warm you have to create a cooler atmosphere, isnt it true?

Tell me, Phinehas, what u\'ll have to do when the atmosphere change too quickly? Do u think ull take the pull over or will u stay naked?

The human spirit as the same problem in reality. If the things change too quickly, it is lost.

Dark and crystal ways glyphes combined are the worst magic the universe has ever known... I love u, I hate u, I love u, I hate u... First ull be confused and then ull be lost... Do u think ull be able to react quickly enough? I dont think so!
-> the opposite magics are the most powerful magic in Yliakum... but the most dangerous too...

Just think at the \"antipode\" magic : \"fire and ice\". First a cold liquid come and freeze your armour then a fire ball comes and ull see, Phinehas, ull see that even if your armour is the best of every kingdom of Yliakum, you armour will be shatered.

My way of magic are the same as Platyna... plus the brown way... the one of the nature! But I must admit I learnt the use of the crystal way by my biological parents and the use of the dark way by my adoptive parent... Could they all rest in peace!

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« Reply #94 on: April 22, 2005, 09:35:36 pm »
Well, I\'d have to say that good RP is when a person chooses a character and sticks to it. I\'m not talking about things like not calling people by their name until you\'ve been introduced, even though you can see it hovering over their head. That stuff goes without saying. I\'m talking about knowing your character. Not completely knowing everything he does and why. It\'s fine and great to discover him as you play him. But I\'m talking about not doing things such as twinking, or reactions that are totally random. It\'s never good to always make your character come out on top, as that\'s hardly realistic. A weakness or two is a good thing to throw in, to keep the balance. In essence, choose a character, stick to him, and keep it realistic, within the bounds of fantasy, of course.

It\'s a lot more complicated, and I could list suggestions and rules and what-not, but that\'s not what you asked. The above is a not-very-well-put-together summary.

*edit* @ fken: I haven\'t fully thought it over. But it would seem to me that the Dark Way would have trouble existing in the presence of the Crystal Way. You yourself have listed valid reasons as to why they shouldn\'t be used together. It would tear a person apart. Now, if you\'re just talking about casting spells, by all means, use both. But if you\'re talking about anything deeper than that, then you run into a problem.
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« Reply #95 on: April 22, 2005, 09:46:06 pm »
and in IRL my dear, Phinehas, what u r calling problem is the life... nothing exist without its opposite...

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« Reply #96 on: April 22, 2005, 09:54:59 pm »
Indeed, but polar opposites rarely exist in the same place. They tend to drive each other out.

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« Reply #97 on: April 22, 2005, 10:28:44 pm »
You see Phinehas? I have very similar definition of good Role Playing, and I have
chosen myself such character because that\'s me. I have explained it a few
posts up. Even a race I have choosen fits to character I am Role Playing perfectly:
Ynnwin, a criss-cross between elf - symbol of goodness, subtleness,
gentleness and devil (diaboli) a symbol of evil, agression, irritability.


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« Reply #98 on: April 22, 2005, 10:43:13 pm »
Indeed. If you\'ll read my post, you\'ll realize it\'s not as controversial as it seems. All I said was that I wasn\'t sure if what you\'re doing is actually feasible, but that doesn\'t bother me, because it\'s a fantasy game after all, as long as it\'s not too wacky(which it isn\'t) then anything goes.

The second thing is whether you\'re a good enough RPer to make it work. And that remains to be seen, as I said. I wish you luck with it, as I said. I don\'t see what the big fuss is about.

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« Reply #99 on: April 23, 2005, 07:51:24 am »
Cyl, you should open a fortune telling business ;)

My main way is Blue, followed by Azure. A good \'buffering\' combo, i\'d say. Also, the two ways that have most to do with mind, a very interesting area (and in my opinion, the most closely-bound with magic, like physical strength is connected to body).
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« Reply #100 on: April 23, 2005, 08:35:25 am »
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Ynnwin, a criss-cross between elf - symbol of goodness, subtleness,
gentleness and devil (diaboli) a symbol of evil, agression, irritability.

Sorry, I\'m going to have to take issue with this comment. Nowhere does it say the Diaboli are evil, agressive, or irritable. In fact, it is quit the opposite, if you read the race descriptions.


Back on topic...which way? Hmmm...sticking to RP, I would have to say none...and all. Cyl knows what I\'m talking about.

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« Reply #101 on: April 23, 2005, 09:12:24 am »
Phinehas, I think it says in the player guide that it is possible to mix opposite ways together, it results in a powerful but hard to master spell. Anyway crystal and dark aren\'t really opposits, healing and pain can be mixed together for eternal suffering.

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« Reply #102 on: April 23, 2005, 11:47:37 am »
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It\'s never good to always make your character come out on top, as that\'s hardly realistic. A weakness or two is a good thing to throw in, to keep the balance. In essence, choose a character, stick to him, and keep it realistic, within the bounds of fantasy, of course.


Just to add, it is so much more fun to play a character with weaknesses (I myself am playing (well not atm comp broke down so no playing for now) a kind of vagabound (probably vagant)); no money; dirty and quite desperate earning his keep with fortune-telling) than a uber demi god of D00MZ.

About crystal and dark way, hmm, I dont know if I am right but I would say that you have to be kind of schizophrenic to master them both, I am not talking about learning both, but mastering both. In my opinion to master a way you need both the knowledge and the \"feeling\",

I have never heard of a good necromancer who cared for living beings and for the rest of the dead. Just imagine a necromancer raising his hand over the corpse, the glyph in his hand and mumbling words of power, but then reminds himself that the dead should keep his rest.

About blue way, serenety, peace within yourself is the key to it. It takes calculation and a cool head to master it. Even the most tremendous wave did cross the ocean on a journey of hours before it breaks on the shore within seconds. I cant imagine that a mage feeds the beam of frost with the flame of anger.

To control the way of azure is mostly to fight against the mind of the target. It needs tremendous will to control the winds and to contro the mind. To be an azure mage means to have your head in the clouds, to strive for higher things. No true azure mage can base his powers on fix things.

And then there is the brown way, the way that is based on the circle of nature, always repeating itself, it\'s based on things that will allways be like they are. Some people may think that the brown way is inferior, but that most likely will end when a druid has a tree entangle and opress them.

The way of red, passion, anger, fury. It is fed by the inner flame of the caster. Only the most furious or passionate, can even strive to master it. The destructions that can be caused by it are tremendous. But often it is forgotten that fire in his pure form is base to all life.

The crystal way is taking it\'s force from devotion, and care for life. It is that fact that makes it the strongest weapon against creatures of darkness, who dont know those feelings. But never forget that the crystal way in the hand of a madman can cause more harm than any other way. Corrupted healing, burning light. On the other hand the casters of crystal way are often a blessing to farmers and wounded adventurers.

Back to the weakness statement from above: Balance is the thing that makes RPin fun, neither a demi god nor a \"I cannot - I see not - I hear not and I talk not\" guy will have fun RPing.

@Aeden: I know about the circumstances of your mastership of all ways, and I have to say that it (somehow) is made possible because of (kind of) schizophrenia. *Edit* only half true, it is your own mind that controls the chain, but without Yamuel you would not have been able to master the chain (or at least that soon)

*Edit* About that \"diaboli\" being evil thing. In that way you are totally wrong, the diaboli are neither evil nor unpleasent. Actually I have to say that diaboli (or partially diaboli) are a pleasance to have around.

*Edit* And elves aint the incarnation of good. Think of Draklar, who (before he left that path) was one of the most feared retainers of the dark empire.
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« Reply #103 on: April 23, 2005, 12:23:26 pm »
Well, Cyl, most of what you had to say is fairly accurate. I don\'t necessarily completely agree with what you had to say about the various ways, but everyone\'s entitled to an opinion.

As for Diaboli. They can be your best friend, or your worst enemy, either way, they\'re always charming. Just look at Tybalt.

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« Reply #104 on: April 23, 2005, 01:20:16 pm »
Yeah well Tybalt, I dont think there is any girl out there he cant charm.
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