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saberknight

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« on: January 09, 2004, 04:51:55 am »
I think that the items in the game should be in 4 classes
Normal common
Normal unique
Monster common
Monster unique

Now right off the bat I would like to say that by monster weapons I don?t mean stuff only hostile npcs can use I mean stuff made out of monsters this post is mostly for weapon and armor smiths see I was thinking the key to being a smith is getting the best stuff to make weapons out of the better the stuff the better the item here are some forge recipes

Normal common
Iron ore: dagger, sword (long and short), shield, armor, helm, throwing star, etc
 Wood (collected from trees): shield
Leather: gloves, armor, boots, belt

Normal monster
Unicorn horn = sword (regenerates health)
Goblin claw = dagger or claw weapon (causes open wounds (lose health per sec/turn))
Orc bone = club (high durability and chance to stun target)
Griffin beak = helm (good durability, good defense, medium weight)
Dragon scales = armor (awesome durability and defense plus resists fire)
Snakes skin = boots or whip
Snakes fangs = darts (poisons target)
Boars tusk = dagger (nothing special)

I don?t know the quests but my idea was to get a monster unique you have to kill a tough quest boss and take a part to a weapon/armor smith and making it would have a high requirement like so many points into something or so much wisdom/knowledge and strength

The other stuff should be that way too but lower requirements so smiths can at least make stuff for people around there same skill level feel free to post any add-ons or rebukes
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2004, 05:53:48 am »
not a horrible concept but why this over just having all items intigrated as the same classifications?


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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2004, 06:03:22 am »
that will work too the smithing part is what i was really going for
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2004, 08:03:31 pm »
if it can be made then it shouldnt have the identifier \'unique\'.  that might cause a little bit of confusion.  rare would probably do ok, though.  just my two cents.


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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2004, 02:51:04 am »
this is true but see i was thinking the best items in the game should be made from parts from really tuff bosses and rare might make people think they are weak it is true that they wouldn\'t really be unique but i couldn\'t think of a name that reflects there power without puting them in the wrong class
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2004, 09:22:12 pm »
not necassarily(sp?).  if it\'s rare, then the idea is that it\'s quite potent already.  if it\'s unique, then there\'s almost no duplicates.  well, there\'s always u83r-1337, although that would just look funny in-game. :P


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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2004, 04:49:09 am »
And why,might I ask, should there be item classes?I think its unecessary. Just class items as common or unique. Simple as that.

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2004, 06:04:08 am »
well the point of classes is that common items that are smithed should be like the ones in the shops monster items should only come from player smiths and uniques/rares should be found from bosses
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2004, 12:25:24 pm »
Why cant there be common, uncommon, rare and unique

Common is from those monsters you find everywhere.

Uncommon is found is sometimes found in the little onsters and most of the time on the very strong monsters (like tiny bosses) that is have about two times more health and damage and havee special moves and is always with minions(slightly stronger than normal ones).

Rare is rarely found on tiny bosses and mostly minibosses which are found rarely without a quest and are usually on the quests.

Uniques are always on the very strong bosses which are on the big quests guarding something very special and usually people need help on.

This is almost the same as diablo :( but its simple and easy

i would like the item system to be mixed between this system and sabreknights system
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2004, 12:52:57 pm »
I don\'t understand the purpose of item classes. Can please someone explain why we should need class items at all?

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2004, 07:26:40 am »
Item classes is so you have more a reason to pick it up and so you wont leave it there also you wont waste space.

For example: You see a sword on the ground but you dont need swords that much because you already have something good so you go on. You didnt know that it was one of the best sword because it looked the same. Also you wont waste space and time by picking up a item and guessing if its good or bad.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2004, 12:56:57 pm »
How unrealistic. There should a bit of surprise in whether something is rare or not. If you have high lore in identifying items, then perhaps you could pick out a rare item on the ground, but the average person would have to pick it up, give it a swing, and examine it closely to truly be sure of what it is.

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2004, 03:30:12 am »
what i wanted the classes for is not per say to show users what something is but more to deside what drops from what but in any case i want my weapon smith to be able to make monster items
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2004, 08:18:07 am »
Jaxan are games supposed to be realistic??? is magic realistic? are monsters realistic? Would you like a game which is very realistic?

Games are called games for a reason

I like games that are realistic but not too realistic, I dont like it too realistic that it has to take away faster and easier ways through things.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2004, 09:28:38 pm »
So Junilia you want a game that you can do everything as quick as possible with lots of shortcuts.  Isn\'t this game suppose to kind of take your time, work, do something besides hack n slash, so on?