Klyros

[SnowWolf]

Klyros have nightvision which means they are colorblind - but in their description it says they have colorful crests - I wonder what these are for.....

[Taldor]

Originally posted by SnowWolf
Klyros have nightvision which means they are colorblind

Why?

[Ald'Amun Dungeonrunner]

I thought nightvision made it so you saw in black in white only when it was dark...

[Kixie]

actually night vision allows animals like dogs and cats to see in yellow hues not black and white.

[Davis]

You don\'t need to be able to see something to evolve it. It can still be good for something besides marking them to other Klyros.

[Axsyrus]

Originally posted by Davis
You don\'t need to be able to see something to evolve it. It can still be good for something besides marking them to other Klyros.

like what?

[Davis]

About Klyros? Do i need to think of an example? But here\'s a non-Klyros example. Zebra\'s stripes. They are designed to be seen by the lion, it wouldn\'t matter if the zebras were capable of seeing stripes.

[Kixie]

Originally posted by Axsyrus

Originally posted by Davis
You don\'t need to be able to see something to evolve it. It can still be good for something besides marking them to other Klyros.

like what?

And a snapping turtles togue that looks like a worm, a sharks color, an animals digestion tracts, the frogs ability to fall asleep in cold with the help of organic anti freeze. there are a thousand different things an animal cant see that evolve. you dont choose to evolve. nature has a mind of its own and decides whats best for you, or the other animals.

[Axsyrus]

Originally posted by Davis
About Klyros? Do i need to think of an example? But here\'s a non-Klyros example. Zebra\'s stripes. They are designed to be seen by the lion, it wouldn\'t matter if the zebras were capable of seeing stripes.

actually, this whole thread was started to see what they could need the colors for and the thing here is, colorful is usually only used to attract other creatures, so what would Klyros want to attract? they hunt deep underwater, you don\'t see any colors there..

[Kixie]

what if the color hypnotizes an enemy so he cant attack right? what if the color also hypnotizes prey? what if the color is bright to look pretty? who says they cant see it anyways? Whaf if they can see color in day light and just see nightvision in yellow hue? fish and some reptiles can do it so why not the klyros?

[Axsyrus]

Originally posted by whemyfield
what if the color hypnotizes an enemy so he cant attack right? what if the color also hypnotizes prey?

did you actually read what I just said? \" they hunt deep underwater, you don\'t see any colors there..\"
how would bright colors hypnotyze prey/enemy if they hunt underwater where you don\'t see the colors in the first place..

what if the color is bright to look pretty?

look pretty to who?

[Kixie]

look they may hunt underwater but they come up on the surface. there fore they come into contact with eachother. then the colors could there fore be used to distract enemies above water and attract other klyros. and who says you cant see color in the deep ocean. i think you stop seeing the first color red at about 60 feet but 50 feet is still very deep underwater. and note your in a stalagtite so the water cant be that deep so the deepest waters are only a quarter of mile which is about 450 feet roughly. so the deepest deepest deepest you could still see yellow hues of purple and some greens.

[SnowWolf]

In the rules it says under night vision, among other things, that the character sees the world in black and white - that\'s how I know.

I\'m wondering why because crests usually evolve to attract mates. Skin color doesn\'t need to be seen (zebra example) but crests usually do. The hypnotizing idea probably does work because from what I understand you can\'t really see them from the front.

I was thinking that perhaps the Klyros could see in color even with their nightvision or that maybe the color was to express danger of some kind....

I wasn\'t making any kind of a statement with my original post - I was asking a question.

[Leander256]

I bet it\'s simply that they see in black and white in the dark, but can perceive colours at daylight.

Nightvision is usually described as an extra sensitiveness to infrared rays emitted by objects that have been warmed. Whether those creatures perceive infrared as white or a particular combination of colours doesn\'t really matter, since we can\'t describe the colors in infrared anyway as we can\'t see it. But I bet you\'ll be able to see the world in black and white at night when playing one of those creatures.
For those who skipped biology classes, we also got two kinds of receptors: cones for colours (more efficient at daylight) and retinal rods for black and white (more efficent at night).

[SnowWolf]

It might be interesting to note that there is ALSO infarred vision where the player sees the world in blue and heated objects (players and monsters) in red