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« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2004, 02:27:55 am »
Actually, I think there is a very high chance the arcane order history might be approved by talad, it\'s already almost the size of the PS history. However, we chose to stick to the current settings, not just act like there are no gods etcetera yet, we used the gods(laanx and talad) as a really important part of our story. We didn\'t just created some new gods to our liking while screaming \"TALAD IS BORING, WE NEED NEW ONES\".

I think IF you want to make new gods so badly, look at what The Followers of Aliathi have done, they actually used the settings to support all of their history, wich I think is really great.

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For instance, the story of the gods of Planeshift is boring and safe, and told from a male point of view that considers women second class. You wanna support that for eternity?


Did I miss something here?
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« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2004, 02:35:04 am »
You will be able to put your own books in the library...so create whatever you want, knock yourselves out...they don\'t even fix the original setting\'s errors when it\'s done, I seriously doubt they will add totally new official parts.

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For instance, the story of the gods of Planeshift is boring and safe, and told from a male point of view that considers women second class. You wanna support that for eternity?


Did I miss something here?


I thought laanx screwed up and became male, or something like that...therefore that not making sense to me either...but whatever, I haven\'t read the setting in a few years.
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« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2004, 02:58:23 pm »
she lost her beauty and gave up her femininity... thus becoming, more or less, male.. :P

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« Reply #48 on: March 25, 2004, 11:53:31 pm »
yeah, I got that.. but how does this make women \"second class\"  ?(

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« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2004, 08:45:34 pm »
Cause, there ain\'t no ladies as gods, Axsyrus.  :D

If the official god Talaad was cast as a male, and the only female god got de-feminized, I think it was all written by a guy who thought: Hmm, we don\'t need no chicks, a guy god is good enough. What woman would ever write that Laanx lost her femininity to become a guy (or sexless, or whatever the guy who wrote that meant)? Impossible. All women in Planeshift were cast as second class citizens by this. It doesn\'t mean that the female players of the game will accept the limitations that this less-than status suggests.

The official authors could have made some of the races to have females as the physically stronger-looking ones, too. But no, same old same old. Most races follow the male sexist guideline that women should be less imposing than males.

Put this all together and you see a passive forum of male chauvanism at work in the creation of the Planeshift universe. This does not mean, however, that ladies won\'t rule the place side by side with men...or maybe rule above them. They are used to ignoring road blocks like these. I bet they won\'t neuter Talaad should they become the ruling \"gender\" of Planeshift, though. They will make their own goddesses instead. Who would want a used Talaad anyway?

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« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2004, 08:51:50 pm »
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I think it was all written by a guy who thought: Hmm, we don\'t need no chicks, a guy god is good enough. What woman would ever write that Laanx lost her femininity to become a guy (or sexless, or whatever the guy who wrote that meant)? Impossible. All women in Planeshift were cast as second class citizens by this.


Wow, Maxximus, you\'ve definately jumped over your earlier stupid comments...congratulations...in fact, I think you beat out most other on-topic posts.  That has no base whatsoever.

And about the rest:
Kran are the strongest, they are \"its\"...Lemurs and other like them are much weaker then say diaboli or dwarves I think (male or female) and all these can be overcome as that is just how you start out...much like in real life.
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« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2004, 09:13:10 pm »
Maxximus: both Talad and Laanx are guys in real life (correct me if I\'m wrong about Laanx :P). If it\'s so, should we burn them on stake for them wanting to be their rl genders? :P
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« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2004, 10:50:39 pm »
As far as I know, playing a female or male version of a race is statistically exactly the same.  You\'re crazy.
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« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2004, 02:08:01 am »
YES BURN THEM ONNA STICK ! MENOTH DEMANDS IT !

or eals we\'ll just have to use you instead
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« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2004, 02:26:08 am »
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Maxximus: both Talad and Laanx are guys in real life (correct me if I\'m wrong about Laanx :P). If it\'s so, should we burn them on stake for them wanting to be their rl genders? :P


Did I suggest that, Draklar?

/me reads his own post again

Umm - nope.

I did say other stuff, though. Kind of though-provoking, I thought. Care to comment on it?

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« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2004, 02:38:23 am »
Hmmm what\'s the male version of a feminist...

Planeshift is in no way sexist.  Males have no advantages over females in any way.  The stats are the same for both sexes so how is it that you can say men are better than women in PS?  Two gods are male.  So?  You\'re saying that it is impossible for two gods to both be male without it being sexist?

P.S.  I heard Laanx was a woman rl....

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« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2004, 10:23:44 am »
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Hmmm what\'s the male version of a feminist... Planeshift is in no way sexist.


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« Reply #57 on: March 27, 2004, 04:51:00 pm »
my point is that you whine about gods being male for no good reason :P
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« Reply #58 on: March 27, 2004, 07:56:49 pm »
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Hmmm what\'s the male version of a feminist... Planeshift is in no way sexist.


Hahaha.

I love forum creatures.


Planeshift...not the people who play planeshift.

Hahaha...I laugh because your funny...care to actually respond to the actual points being made instead of just the rest?  I don\'t know...just a thought.

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« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2004, 10:42:18 pm »
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my point is that you whine about gods being male for no good reason :P


If you think my \"whining\" over the Planeshift god system being developed from a male sexist point of view isn\'t a good enough reason to post in this thread, then we\'re talking different languages here. Debate over.

I\'ve said, among other things, that the effect of having only males gods in Planeshift was to make all females in Planshift second class. Apparently, that concept doesn\'t even register in your brain. The reason I am \"whining\" about this is that maybe  there can be a positive change made to the game story that would equalize things. Wouldn\'t that be a good idea? Equal is good in my book.