Can Krans bleed?

[Murais]

ok, this thread just makes me angry...


....first of all, krans could not have blood.... at all.  Everything that you could possibly think of would erode it from the inside out. Sand, being made of grains of rock, if flowing through the krans\' \"veins\" would surely wear it down to nothing. The stupid comment of lava, would just melt it out-right. Gas would cause it to crack and break. Water would just wear it down.


.... so sadly, as much as you all are going to hate it, krans can only be answered in that hated phrase \"\'Tis Magic!!\". It\'s an MMORPG, so frankily, I don\'t think anyone would care much. So I suggest all of you who spent so much wasted time here trying to come up with scientific explainations for a fantasy game to sit down, and look at your life, and ask yourself \"What the hell am I doing?\".  Because fantasy is supposed to escape logic, and make no sense, because it contains magic. With what you are proposing, there would be no point of krans, they would either be the strongest, or weakest of races. To go with a scientific explanation, they would be extremely weak... vulnerability to the elements, vulnerability to magic, bashing bludgeons, and slicing swords, with krans having a slow regeneration rate, they would have extremely short life-spans, and be completely horrible to play.


      However, to go with fantical explinations would be as equally bad... fire-breathing, rock-hard, impenetrable walking fortresses? C\'mon, that just plain isn\'t fair...

             So I say just leave them as humanoids with a \"durable\" shell-like skin.

P.S. I, myself am a kran

[Elkindel]

\"colored veins different from individual to individual.\"

That makes me think of a colored vein of rock running through another type of rock. Not veins such as the blood vessels in humans.

Example: a vein of obsidian running through a kran made of granite.

[derwoodly]

I agree the viens are not veins of Kran blood, they are streaks of minerals that give them color.

The question that is how to roleplay your Kran.  If it is decided that Krans do not have lava blood, or any blood at all, then when in game it would be bad roleplay to emote a comment about your molen rock blood burning everyone arround.

The \"because its magic\" argument is bogus because it gives your vertually nothing to talk about.  In some games it is the Dwarves that are made out of stone.  This is not too far fetched considering some think humans were made from clay

My personal vote is for Krans to be bloodless.  Fighting a Kran should be like breaking up concrete with a sledge hammer.   So far it sounds like the only way to combat a Kran is to run away.   Hopefully they will at least run slower than other races.

[Pyronion]

Lol if it meens the dont Breathe the also can swim underwater for al eneternity...and go to outer space without suites ^^

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Pyronion
the also can swim underwater for al eneternity

that would be \"stay underwater\", I don\'t see how something made of rock could swim
anyway, I\'m impressed that this thread didn\'t die yet...
it\'s kinda like asking \"Can earth elementals bleed?\" if you ask me...

[SaintNuclear]

Originally posted by Draklar
it\'s kinda like asking \"Can earth elementals bleed?\" if you ask me...

Not really. Elements aren\'t alive, Krans are (atleast in PS).

[Draklar]

yes, that might be the reason why I said \'elementals\', not \'elements\'....

[Adeli]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but I read it, and I\'m amazed at the lengths people went to explain something that noone could possibly know for sure.

who says kran \'blood\' is anything at all like the substance things have in real life? squids don\'t have red \'blood\' you know? they are real, and living, if you cut them, they \'bleed\' ink.

a kran could have anything for blood, sometihng you\'ve never heard of before, and Chemistry 101 can\'t explain.
It\'s a game.. did you know that?

If you are terribly concerned about it, ask the devs, they made the Kran. Before you say it was \'Talad\' that made the kran (this particular forum is NOT rp only) it was the devs who made the Kran, and they made Talad too![gasp]...[/gasp]
The Kran are whatever they are, because the Devs said so.

[nightwolfz]

maybe you should make so when krans armor is destroyed a little agile creature comes out of it ... and you have to eat some rocks (or wait some time) untill the new armor grows on you

[SaintNuclear]

Originally posted by Adeli
a kran could have anything for blood, sometihng you\'ve never heard of before, and Chemistry 101 can\'t explain.
It\'s a game.. did you know that?

Not even once it was said in this thread that Krans bleed red human blood.
We were discussing what it could be for fun.

If you are terribly concerned about it, ask the devs, they made the Kran.

If the devs would\'ve known such details that aren\'t written in the races pages I\'m sure they would\'ve posted it here.

Before you say it was \'Talad\' that made the kran (this particular forum is NOT rp only) it was the devs who made the Kran, and they made Talad too!

You know, Talad happens to be the project leader... :rolleyes:




I don\'t see why you guys have such a big problem when other people are trying to think about the PS world for fun. Is it really that much of a problem that you can\'t even ignore it?
We\'re thinking about the setting of the game, and trying to expand what we don\'t know (and probebly wasn\'t thought about) it! That\'s all!
So if you got a problem with it, don\'t read this thread, and don\'t resurrect it.


Edit: Damn, you must be either a huge attention peanut, or care about your post count too much to resurrect a thread you think shouldn\'t have been posted in the first place :rolleyes:

[Seytra]

I believe that Krans indeed do have blood, which will, however, not be anything like human blood. Also, there is no problem at all with SiO2 not being soluable in water, because if the components are small enough, the turbulences in the veins will be enough to keep it from separating, which will only mean that Krans veins are shaped in a special way to create turbulences in the blood, and also to make the blood flow faster. Otherwise, I don\'t see a problem. Thus, the only problem would be how they get rid of the sand that is their version of CO2, and I\'d say they simply have it moved, not to lungs, but to the outside of their bodies, where it is deposited to either replace lost \"skin\" or just grow or maybe fall off as dust.
Furthermore, there can of course be chemical molecules that contain silicon, and I don\'t see any reason why they would not get as complex as carbon based ones (though I don\'t know much about chemistry). Therefore, they might even have some cell-like structures.
I also think their brains would be computerlike, consisting only of doped silicon for the conductors (as pure silicon isn\'t conductive, which is why processors need metal internally).
Their skin, therefore, would not be pure silicon, but a somewhat flexible compound of cell-like structures containing mainly siilicon. This way, they would indeed be less mobile but also very well armoured, and look like they look. Their insides will be similar, with organs that create the strong acids and taking in the minerals and everything else they need. The only thing I\'m not sure is how they manage to get energy from the rock, as it doesn\'t contain silicone but SiO2, which will be the product of the oxidation process of silicone which would give off energy...

If anyone is still interested, the reproduction question is being dealt with in this thread:
http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=11371&boardid=13&styleid=3

[Chestar]

Originally posted by Xelex
The whole reason to play a fantasy game is to stray away from reality. They are polar opposites. If you want to be all logical save it for school. In a fantasy ANYTHING is possible....except reality.

Well if you think about it, the interior of our stomachs is made up of chemicals that are able to resist the dissolving acid power of stomach acid. So maybe the inside of Kran veins could have a chemical that makes it resistant to heat so the lava doesnt burn though the vein causing internal bleeding which really hurts.

[DarkArchon]

I think that kran are organic beings. Look. Many animals on earth developed lost of diffrent defence systems. I think that just like bugs developed chitin armors on their body, the same krans developed mineral armor (stone) to protect their inner organs. What do you think ??

[Kiva]

Originally posted by DarkArchon
I think that kran are organic beings. Look. Many animals on earth developed lost of diffrent defence systems. I think that just like bugs developed chitin armors on their body, the same krans developed mineral armor (stone) to protect their inner organs. What do you think ??

I think it doesn\'t matter because Kran were made of stone, by magic, and that\'s the way they are. Who cares if they are liquid inside or have lavablood or green hairs growing all over them. The point is that they\'re there, they have great magic resistance and such things shouldn\'t be questioned, just accepted. Makes things so much easier.

[Seytra]

Originally posted by Gronomist
I think it doesn\'t matter because Kran were made of stone, by magic, and that\'s the way they are. Who cares if they are liquid inside or have lavablood or green hairs growing all over them. The point is that they\'re there, they have great magic resistance and such things shouldn\'t be questioned, just accepted. Makes things so much easier.

While it may make things easier, it also is unsatisfactory, at least to me. IMO it doesn\'t need to be perfectly realistic, but it also shouldn\'t be \"it\'s like that because... it\'s like that.\".
I, however, don\'t think lava blood is a good idea, and also don\'t think it would be pure acid. I don\'t even think that it would be acid at all, since our blood isn\'t acidic as well, but the human stomach contains strong acids. It would be containing the silicon-based counterparts of what our blood contains, which would be nutrients and waste materials, which may both be contained in water or oil (think of muddy water or dirty oil). I therefore can see the Kran bleed very liquid mud or oil, as has been proposed already. Finest Kran oil, anyone?

Originally posted by DarkArchon
I think that kran are organic beings. Look. Many animals on earth developed lost of diffrent defence systems. I think that just like bugs developed chitin armors on their body, the same krans developed mineral armor (stone) to protect their inner organs. What do you think ??

I also don\'t think Kran would be carbon-based on the inside, because if it were like that, they wouldn\'t actually be this different. Most importantly, they would have a gender just as any other complex carbon-based lifeform also has. We should try to emphasize their being different, not to remove it.