If wishes were fishes...

[karakth]

Ok, why not \"close\" the wish list forum for a while (Until CB comes out)? By close I mean not allowing any more new threads to be posted, but present threads can still be discussed. The reason I am suggesting this is because the list of wishes is so long, that there are enough ideas to make three or four new releases. Why don\'t we allow the Devs to concentrate on what is already there, instead of adding more and more wishes?

I realise that this is something very drastic, but the wishlist gets longer and longer every day, often with wishes that will only appear, if they appear, in a fairly advanced release of the game.

[dfryer]

I don\'t think that is necessary, since I think many \"wishes\" either are planned features, being brought up again and again, or just plain special and ignored for all time  Occasionally someone will have a good idea and then we\'ll bug the devs about it ...

[SaintNuclear]

The problem isn\'t too many wishes, the problem is wishes that are posted again, and again, and again, and wishes by n00bs such as \"i want to fightz0rz!!!11111\"


Anyways, whether the Wish List is closed from posting new threads or not, I think a few people should go through the whole Wish List and write down all the wishes that were made.
Then they\'ll compile an actual Wish List. It\'ll be alot easier to go through the wishes this way.

Wormtail_ did something like this here, but what I\'m talking about is a list of all the wishes in the Wish List.

Right now there are 46 pages full of threads. I don\'t think it should be a problem for one person to go through 10 pages in three weeks. That means 4.5 people going through it. I\'m sure there\'ll be volunteers if it\'ll actually help to bring the ideas there to PS.

[Icefalcon]

Wormtail\'s wish list is fine. He took all the good ones and made a list. Why go through all the bad ones too?

[SaintNuclear]

Who says all of the wishes besides the ones in his list are bad?

Also, in each thread there could be more than one wish. The fact that it don\'t have it\'s own thread doesn\'t mean it should be ignored.

[DepthBlade]

If wishes were fishes im sure there would be way less wishes out there!

Yah I wouldn\'t mind it being closed just because its getting repetitive..you have these new people posting threads about stuff they think is new but really isn\'t! Just use that categorizer and put all the threads in that like all the different topics!

[SaintNuclear]

Gah, the Wish List really is getting filled with n00bs. Every few days a few n00bs decide to ressurect as many Wish threads as they can using post that are short, irrelevant, and contribute absolutely nothing.
Besides those, there are the n00bs that open useless threads.

The Wish List really really should get closed. Moderating it will be impossible.

Pros: No more n00bish posts and threads.
Cons: Good threads won\'t be opened, discussions won\'t be made.

Solution to the cons:
If someone really have a good idea to the Wish List, he can simply go to a mod and ask either to open the forum for a min or that the mod will post it for him.

Discussing wishes that aren\'t idiotic won\'t be made, true, but I doubt there will be any need for it, atleast not soon.
The good wishes were discussed, and there\'s not much to add to them. The bad wishes were flamed because they\'re stupid. New good wishes probebly won\'t come for the next few months.

So just close it.

Of course, you could close registration of new members to the board. This\'ll solve most of the n00bism in all of the board.

[dfryer]

Of course, you could close registration of new members to the board. This\'ll solve most of the n00bism in all of the board.

There\'s a little n00b in all of us.  Closing the wish list (like closing PVP & PK) would just cause a similar proliferation of threads in general discussion, development deliberation or hydlaa plaza.

No one forces you to read the wish list posts

[Kiva]

If any of you had bothered reading the \"Important:\" posts in the wish list forum, you would\'ve noticed that the devs don\'t care about that wish list there. They care about the sourceforge tracker list thing. The forum wish list is just for discussing ideas, so they can later be submitted.

Anyway, I must admit that most wishes made in that forum are useless, mainly because they lack content. They are simply small, underdeveloped ideas that really don\'t have what it takes to be a fully developed suggestion. If you want to get rid of such posts, ask Vengeance get someone to modify the wish list, and keep some order in the posts made there.

And like dfryer says, if you close the wish list, they will simply post n00bish ideas everywhere else, and that\'s not what you intended, was it?

[Levski]

Why doesn\'t someone make up a sticky thread with all the ideas in them, so that when people click, they will be taken to that thread?

Or if that fails (which it probably will since it implies so much work), why doesn\'t someone seperate the wishes into the different sub-forums, i.e. wishes for magic system, wishes for quests, wishes for the world (i.e. the treecastle) and so forth.  It would make things a lot easier.

[Moogie]

Originally posted by Levski
Or if that fails (which it probably will since it implies so much work), why doesn\'t someone seperate the wishes into the different sub-forums, i.e. wishes for magic system, wishes for quests, wishes for the world (i.e. the treecastle) and so forth.  It would make things a lot easier.

This has been asked before. Seperate sections would require too much moderation. People would post in all the wrong areas. The Wishlist is just a place where developers browse through and see if anything piques their interest. They don\'t want to have to spend extra time loading different areas just to have a glance at what they contain.

[Aeterus]

Well it seems quite the opposite for me, since there is no categorization, we get a lot of garbage posts, and i bet it requires a lot more patience to dive in those.
I think that the categorization wasn\'t suggested to devide the posts, but rather prevent repetition to the bare minimum thus minimizing the actuall number of posts.

I remember posting something just for discussion, but it was moved to the wishlist section, for the same reason gronomist mentioned - the wishlist is just a place to discuss new ideas, not to actually suggest them.
So i guess the wishlist is too harmless to be closed ^^

Parhaps it should have been renamed to something like \"hypothetycal suggestion discussion\" ...

[Cyberchu]

Why not delete some threads and move their ideas into threads which are on the same subject? It would dramaticly cut down on the number of posts and if people see a post on the subject that they want to post in they are mush more likely to do that instead of creating a new thread

[Aeterus]

Originally posted by Cyberchu
Why not delete some threads and move their ideas into threads which are on the same subject? It would dramaticly cut down on the number of posts and if people see a post on the subject that they want to post in they are mush more likely to do that instead of creating a new thread

Well it\'s still people\'s post, and the important thing in the thread isn\'t the original topic with the suggestion but actually the later posts which bring depth to the ideas behind it.

And it seems must people miss the main idea, nobody ignores previous posts, they just don\'t notice/see it, if you got a good idea, what are the chances you\'ll go over a hundred+ posts to see if someone mentioned it earlier ?

So the idea is that if things would be more ordered people will actually find it easier to see previous ideas.

[SaintNuclear]

Originally posted by Aeterus
And it seems must people miss the main idea, nobody ignores previous posts, they just don\'t notice/see it, if you got a good idea, what are the chances you\'ll go over a hundred+ posts to see if someone mentioned it earlier ?

It\'s because people don\'t use the search function before they post.

And that\'s why registration to the board should be either closed, or by invitation.