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« on: February 05, 2019, 08:34:15 pm »
I'm not leaving.
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your right about that, they basically want puppets that move on command rather than people with a will of their own. much easier to do whatever they want that way.That they want people able to follow orders without asking actually means they do care about who people are, you know.
Quote from: Aeghiss link=topic=42841.msg482929#msg482929 date=1501836020Finally, something you didn't mention (of course...) : even though being trans surely is more of a weakness than a strength in a discriminating society, trans people are first and foremost individuals.What I meant here was precisely that : recruiting for the army you would ask yourself whether one would be able to follow orders, how fast and how well they will react in case of a danger, etc. And this is about one's quality and flaws, their individuality in short. And if a trans has every quality you seek, it would be nonsensical to turn them down only because they are trans, and instead take someone who isn't as good.
You can tell what you want about trans being globally a lesser choice, trans aren't all the same. Having trans quotas in the army to make sure they have their chances as well as the cis wouldn't make sense, but turning every trans down makes no sense either.
It's impossible to do so when your claims are not based on logic. All we can do is point out how absurd your statements are.
Rigwyn, nothing you posted was a sensible argument against what Trump had himself said in the debates and through other media outlets.
You might want to trace the discussion back a few links. I think you've lost track of what we were discussing.
LOL. That's quite Ok. I have my logic all figured out. I've made a point to discuss my points of view clearly and articulately. I think I've been fair and balanced giving credit where credit is due. You on the other hand, are being lazy by trying to just hand-wave this away. Shame on you.
I have no idea what you are responding to. The quote in your post is of someone else's words, not mine.
First off, we don't hate Trump because he "speaks his mind." We hate him because he is a bumbling, megalomaniac xenophobe who has absolutely no idea how to run a country.
How many of the other candidates have experience running the country?
Zip.
This is a new experience for any candidate unless they are being re-elected, and with it comes a sharp learning curve.QuoteHe thinks all Mexicans are criminals and rapists and all Muslims are terrorists.
That is not what he's said and is not accurate. Replace the "all" with "some" and you'll be a bit closer. As for what he thinks, it's not knowable and not really relevant.QuoteHis most concrete plans involve building walls, doing "something" about Muslims, and replacing Obamacare with "IDK something better."
What's interesting about this point is that when candidates spout off about specific plans, they typically don't carry through once elected. I suspect it's because they are not privy to the whole story until they are in. ( That or they are just spouting bullshit ). Given this, I'm fine with a rough idea and some history of competence in an executive position.QuoteTrump can't even maintain diplomatic relations with Fox News, who is universally recognized to have a huge bias toward his own side of the aisle. Can you imagine him at peace talks between Palestine and Israel? Things would blow up. More than they already do, I mean.
You have a point there , but I don't think FOX news was interested in supporting him specifically. Remember, he's hitting for the Republicans but he's not bound by them like Cruz and Rubio ( who would be completely helpless without their money ). When a candidate is entirely dependent on their sponsor's money, they are their bitch ( or puppet ). Trump is neither - like Romney( who I despised for reasons not relevant to this topic ) he has his own money and/or means of raising it.QuoteAs far as Socialism goes...that whole thing about the safety net (Welfare, Unemployment, etc) is complete hogwash. It's often spouted by conservatives in favor of "trickle-down economics," which has been failing to work since at least the Nixon era. People aren't fundamentally lazy--sure maybe a few of them are.
There are entire communities where people make a lifestyle out of living off of welfare and food stamps. Some kids grow up thinking that "EBT" cards are the same as "DEBIT" cards. ( They are plastic cards that are used to distribute money to poor people electronically - not the same as a card that gives you access to money you have earned. ) I would cite some references, but I really don't want people accusing me of being racist or anti-religious or anti-semetic or whatever. It's a sticky topic. If you want to know more about it, google it.QuoteBut you'll notice the evidence for this is always anecdotal. When arguing politics with a conservative friend after a few too many G&T's he will inevitably mention his uncle's friend's cousin's wife's roommate who lives in a shack and doesn't work so that he can get welfare. I'm not saying that these people don't exist, but they are a statistically negligent minority.
Let's see... Bronx, Harlem, Kiryas Joel to name a few. We're not talking about some lazy college kid who found a way to beat the system. ( Not all people in these areas are on welfare, but many are. ) This is not anecdotal. Here's some details of the percentage of folks who are getting food stamps etc... ( Mind you, these food stamps are paid for by people with jobs - many of which are struggling to feed their own families )
http://frac.org/pdf/ny_times_snap_poverty_formatted.pdfQuoteMost people who use the safety net want desperately to get off of it.
I applaud those who are caught by the net, get up and recover. That's one example of proper use. For those who are genuinely disabled or who need a hand temporarily, they too are using this resource as intended.QuoteThink also about how a wider safety net would likely increase innovation. For instance, I would love to quit my current job and start a business, but I'm afraid of what will happen if my business fails and I can't pay my rent.
I don't think giving out more money is going to breed incentive. Rewarded behavior tends to repeat. Giving money is essentially giving a reward.
As for starting your own business, I would love to work for myself too, but similarly, I don't know how I would transition from from my job to self employment AND ensure that I make the same amount of money and benefits or more. I don't think welfare is going to help with that. For that, you probably need to take some business classes or seek a mentor.
It gets frustrating making well-articulated, carefully crated posts only to see people spew the same baseless garbage, so please don't expect a response if your next posts are of the same quality.
Whoa, buddy. Shilling for Hill much? Did she pay or threaten you with "disappearance under mysterious circumstances"? `Cause there is no way in Hell anyone sane would vote for that hag otherwise.
*Accurate, descriptive words.
Oh come on Ralas, I enjoy a good debate, but I can't have fun with you if you just use emotionally loaded words.
There was no coup. Mr. Trump won the electoral vote even though the DNC and the Democrats cheated. What the Democrats are trying to do right now is a lot closer to an attempted coup than anything else. Admit it. The Democrats and Liberals would love to stage a coup right about now.
While it's trendy to call people who you do not like "fascists" nowadays*, I don't think that's the best match. We do not have an authoritarian government and we have freedom which does not work with fascism. We also have the ability to impeach a president if need be which happened to Hillary's husband for lying under oath just like Hillary did years later. He was impeached, but not removed from office.
Treason? No, however Obama giving 200 million to Palestine ( Israel's worst enemy ), the Iran nuke deal, the 1 billion+ dollars John Kerry subsequently gave to Iran, and Hillary's acceptance of huge amounts of money from foreign countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar via her fake charity, her fake news and the MSM's fake polls are not technically treason, but are damn close.